20:46 < mst> fdaemoins: do NOT use nextgen.pm 20:46 < fdaemoins> why is that? 20:47 < mst> fdaemoins: because the author couldn't find his arse with both hands 20:47 < mst> fdaemoins: nextgen is bsaically "Modern::Perl done very badly" 20:47 < fdaemoins> mst: that seems crude, care to elaborate the problem with the /code/, or are you suggesting we should judge the tools we use by the authors that write them? 20:48 < fdaemoins> because I hear you're a pretty fucking big arse hole too. 20:48 < fdaemoins> I'm sure the author would gladly address your concerns. 20:49 < mst> I judge the tools by their likely future stability 20:49 < mst> since Evan is known for breaking shit with no notice, and nextgen's enforcing of 'use Moose' onto every package is insane anyway, I wouldn't go within a mile of it for production code 20:49 < fdaemoins> it's on git hub, you can fork it.. 20:50 < mst> I don't want to fork it. I want to use something written by a competent programmer and community member in the first place. 20:50 < mst> use Modern::Perl and/or Moose and/or MooseX::Declare normally 20:50 < fdaemoins> No. 20:51 < fdaemoins> Don't tell me what to do just because you hate author... If you were capable of having this conversation in a sane fashion, you probably wouldn't have banned him from #perl to end this debate before it starts.