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in reply to Ruby Before Perl? Nah.

Have you, by chance, put this up at a Ruby-focused site? I'd be interested to read comments on it from entrenched Ruby folks.

In any case, thanks for sharing. I haven't ventured outside Perl much since PHP, but if I were going to explore for the sake of exploring, I might sally forth into Ruby territory. I appreciate your scouting.

On the topic of variable appearance: I've been thinking for a while that Perl's references obscure the old useful sigils. That's just my hobby horse, however.

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Re^2: Ruby Before Perl? Nah.
by Mutant (Priest) on Jun 04, 2008 at 10:16 UTC
    Have you, by chance, put this up at a Ruby-focused site? I'd be interested to read comments on it from entrenched Ruby folks.

    I would be too... my (brief) encounters with the Ruby community so far have only turned up rampant fanboi-ism. Actually, it's one of the things that's put me off pursuing Ruby further. I'm sure it's just a case of bad luck, altho I do suspect that the average Rubyite is a bit more defensive than the averager Perler (I think Perl coders are just used to abuse nowadays). Would be interesting to compare the quality of responses to a post on a Ruby site to those on this site (which are all excellent so far).

Re^2: Ruby Before Perl? Nah.
by Anonymous Monk on Jun 08, 2008 at 02:17 UTC
    It won't trigger any interest in Perl among Rubist. You won't be able to trigger any interest of Hillary among Obama supporters. See what's going on? Generation differences.

      Triggering interest would be nice, but mostly I was asking out of my own interest, already triggered. Much like other subjects (including politics), I find it interesting to read the perspectives of those who hold opinions different from my own. How do the Rubists "hear" the opinions of the Perl folks who've visited? How do they view those same features themselves? With enough discussion, sometimes it's even possible to trace opinions back to the core values that support them. That is interesting—more interesting than Ruby is to me, and probably more interesting than Perl is to a Rubist.