note cybear Good question. I have run into that same sloppy but working prototype, "hurry and get to the next project situation". I think that the benefits of following a standard, with an easy to follow and repeatable pattern outweights the additional time it takes to get the formatting ready. Especially if you think that you'll be shoved on to the next project as soon as you get this one working. I try to use templates myself, that was all that you have to do is fill in the blanks. :-) - cybear 193340 193340