perlmeditation enigmae Greetings, In talking to other programmers out there, there seem to be two camps, people who use perl and those who don't. Everyone has reasons, but i just thought i would share my meditations on this matter. I think most would agree that there are always those programmers who make languages do things that the inventor of the language never intended, and this applies to PERL and many other languages as well, but is this a good thing? I have heard that good programmers are good programmers and the language doesn't matter, and i am sure everyone knows if they are reading the code of a good programmer, but in my experience this is subjective as well, because good can mean that the programs run efficiently and are small, or that they are well documented and are easy to understand but sometimes when PERL is used it is efficent but the syntax allows layzness, and disorganization. What i want to ask is what makes good programmers good? Is it about documentation, efficency, organization, using OOP, the algorithm, or some mysterious aura of having a logical mind and a heart of silicon? All too many times i have heard of programmers that didn't write the code having to manage 2000 lines PERL scripts that are cryptic and don't use strict or warnings, and almost always are surprised that the code even works. Another part of me likes this feature of PERL in that it keeps out the Riff-Raff, simply because you are forcing the people after you to share your technical talents and engage you in the game of decrypting your code etc..., what are your thoughts on this type of Abuse or Use of PERL and do you think it is related to the programmer more then the language. I am sure that a crytic programmer can always find a way to write cryptic code. In c++ it could always be using the terenery operator over if/else, and this also ties into code obfuscation. Well enough ranting and raving, just thought i would share my meditations even if they are disorganized mumblings. Enigmae