note Trimbach I like it. To stretch the metaphor of the "Monastary" a bit it's kinda like breaking dogma and boldly declaring that your fellow monks aren't as pious as they thought they were. There are a number of examples of the truly devout breaking away from traditional teachings after they've become "corrupted." <p> XP down to zero. No XP gained or loss. You have definitely achieved the status of "Zen PerlMonk." (Heck, if this becomes a trend maybe the site can be altered to make that an official title for those who follow your path.) <p>Repeat after me: There is no XP. :-) <div class="pmsig"> <div class="pmsig-35324"> <p><a href="mailto:gblackburn@mac.com">Gary Blackburn</a><br> Trained Killer </div></div> 326503 326601