note eyepopslikeamosquito <P>Of all the examples I gave, this one is perhaps the most <I>theatrical</I>, full of passion, hubris and tragedy. And there are many players on the stage, not just merlyn. Indeed, what I found funniest was <a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/perl-beginner/message/18401">the finale</a> where Jenda says: <I>Now at last I can call myself a hacker in the media meaning</I>. </P> <P>Whether you find this funny or not depends on personal taste. I did. Some of the language used tickled my funny bone for some reason, such as <I>"Am I a member of a insulting-group?"</I>; <I>"No hard feelings, please, but I think your contribution was a bit to much 'over-dressed'"</I>; <I>"nevermore write publically that my code is insecure - or just prove it!"</I>. </P> <P>On a more serious note, I feel these sort of scripts (e.g. Matt's Script Archive) present Perl in a very poor light and I applaud merlyn in this case for promptly and publicly dissuading others from using the posted code. Finally, I was saddened by the poster's response to criticism because this was a great opportunity for him to improve. Perhaps the best way to improve your coding skills is to develop a thick hide, post your code to a public forum, and <I>learn</I> from the free code reviews you receive.</P> 410774 413901