note elwarren <i><blockquote><blockquote>The 'web' browser sitting on most computers is perhaps the most flexible and most amazingly underused component for GUI-based development. </blockquote> The single most enduring circumstance that prevents serious progress in this area is the lack of a language-neutral and credible mechanism for interprocess communication between the browser GUI front-end and perl. (or whatever your language of choice is). </blockquote></i> You're dead-on right about everything you've said, except this bit. I think the biggest hurdle is still the fact that developers create really ugly interfaces in html. Too much focus on functionality and not enough time spent making it pretty. <br><br> Nobody wants to see an html page flash and render every time they hit a submit button, we want to a seamless clean interface that is just there and just works. Gmail is a great example. <br><br> I personally have found that this is the biggest reason I like the google mail interface. It works like a real application. I click on a message and it comes up. I click on reply or forward and I can start typing right away. 415908 415919