note misterb101 Looking good David!<br><br> The only thing I would change is to let $self be the ref to the closure and use another name for the actual data storage. This way you always know that $self is the ref to your object. For instance if you want to call a couple of private methods in your constructor after blessing your variable it would be more staightforward to do<br> <code>$self->_privateMethod();</code><br> than<br> <code>$access->_privateMethod();</code><br><br> Cheers,<br> Rob 8251 272227