note zerogeek I plan to "learn" perl. I worked my way through the llama mid year 2006 and really enjoyed it. I then tried to read the camel and was just lost. I finally found the alpaca and tried, but just fell out of learning. <p> This year, I plan to get through the alpaca and the camel. Also, since I picked up perl just to learn how to program, I plan to come up with a couple projects just to make sure I 'get somewhere' with all my reading! <p> If anyone is just learning and happens to be in the PDX area, drop me a line and maybe we can become study buddies! I can be reached via email at perl (at) nemlu dot com <p> Here's to everyone enjoying a great 2007! 592457 592457