note shotgunefx Gotcha, still out though. Yes, I want it fairly tight, one of the reason I dumped XMMS. In all fairness, it worked quite well for the most part, but occasionally it would lag too much which would make the interface sluggish and a bit unintuitive. For instance, anything that modified the playlist would take forever, (sometimes more than a minute). <br><br> I suppose I could just use it to play and manage the playlist myself, but detecting song changes was hacky. I figured if I could just use SDL and SDL::Mixer, I could have a fairly portable solution. :\ <!-- Node text goes above. Div tags should contain sig only --> <div class="pmsig"><div class="pmsig-75719"> <br> -Lee <br> "To be civilized is to deny one's nature." </div></div> 598630 598646