note syphilis Is that the output from running the Makefile.PL ? It looks to me more like something you would get from running 'make' ... when the build of perl doesn't include config.h (as is often the case with non-devel perl installations on nix-like systems). But I don't have Mac OS X, so I should really just shut up. (Besides, I think I might have shifted from trying to make minor corrections, to trying to split hairs :-) Cheers, Rob 640489 640524