note gnosti Hi chromatic, <p> I'm honored. I agree that it's not a good idea to code using fragile features. In this case, I can't get my [pad://|updated test case] to break whereever I place my 'use subs' statement. I'm curious, because I expect <c>use subs</c> to be part of the extremely beaten-on core of the core of perl. I'm also curious, because I've found such suprising behavior in my bugs that I wondered if it might be worth exploring them more, rather than just fixing or working around them and moving on. 741684 741721