note dragonchild Also, look at [mod://DBM::Deep] for an example of how to provide tie/object behavior on the same thing. <!-- Node text goes above. Div tags should contain sig only --> <div class="pmsig"><div class="pmsig-85580"> <hr> My criteria for good software: <ol> <li>Does it work? <li>Can someone else come in, make a change, and be reasonably certain no bugs were introduced? </ol> </div></div> 742166 742166