note zentara Yeah the lamp_fix jpg's come from my security camera setup to capture "on motion detect". I'm sure there is a frame delay option in mencoder, to slow down the play.<p>I'm toying with the idea used on TV now, where they take a still image, and make a portion a floater (like the mouth opening /closing on a Bush image) so you could make pseudo-animated cartoons of images, maybe with a sound track. Open an person's image on a Tk::Canvas, then draw a lasso around the mouth, and drag the lasso with a mouse, saving at intermediate steps, to give the crude effect of talking or singing.....then lay a sound track on it. <!-- Node text goes above. Div tags should contain sig only --> <div class="pmsig"><div class="pmsig-131741"> <hr /> I'm not really a human, but I play one on earth <a href = http://www.zentara.net/~zentaran/My_Petition_to_the_Great_Cosmic_Conciousness.html>My Petition to the Great Cosmic Conciousness</a> </div></div> 746331 746364