note CardinalNumber I tried the address listed with the pyFLTK project this spring but the domain was (and still is) owned by one of those expired domain grabbers so I wasn't expecting a reply and didn't receive one. <br /><br /> Even though their mailserver bounces mail sent to his address, his LinkedIn page claims he's still with Jumpline so ringing them was always my (absolute) last resort. Hrm... 785628 785667