note Vynce well, actually, it isn't all english. i mean, the ones you cite are all derived from english, at least, but "grep" certainly isn't, and i don't think "polymorphism" is used to mean anything really recognizable as what we use it to mean. <BR> programmers just make more sense to each other than we do to "people". but i digress, i'm sure. probably comes from being unemployed so long. 80436 81801