note Anonymous Monk <blockquote> with Perl 6 is that the spec is released before hand setting very high expectations.A spec complete production ready release is a very overwhelming task to be achieved in a short period of time </blockquote> So why don't they break it up in two parts "standard Perl6" and "Perl6 for astronauts". Just kidding but you get my ideea... <blockquote> So it will take time and the only way is to either help them or wait in patience </blockquote> Sorry I have no intention in helping(I don't know here in my initial post you've read that I intend to help). No I don't think those are the only options. There is also the option of asking from time to time "is it ready?". 835419 835432 4