perlquestion srawls I was working on some obfuscated code, and came across a problem. Well, first what I was trying to do was to do something 12 times (i.e. for(1 .. 12)). I tried this: <code> for(++$....$.++.$.) {print "$_\n"} </code> And to my surprise it printed 2 through 12. Before I move on, I'll explain what I think should happen. To do this, I'll clean up the formatting a bit: <code> for(++$. .. $.++ . $.) #note before I had used ... instead of .. </code> Now, let's examine those values: <code> ++$. = 1 $.++ . $. = 12 #the concatenation of 1 and 2. </code> So, I tried to take it apart and see which individual element was causing the problem, and eventually I came up with this: <code> for(++$....$..$.) #note took out the second ++ </code> Now it prints 1 through 11, exactly what I expect. What I think is happening is that the second ++ is effecting the value of <code>$.</code> somehow, before it's supposed to. This is really baffaling me, so any help is appreciated, thanks The 15 year old, freshman programmer, Stephen Rawls