note moritz <blockquote>and then why not just also a new Camel too?</blockquote> <p>Camel + Perl == Trademark by O'Reilly <p>An open source programming language really doesn't want a proprietary logo. <div class="pmsig"><div class="pmsig-616540"> [http://perl6.org/|Perl 6] - links to (nearly) everything that is Perl 6. </div></div> 852336 854658