note perl.j I liked the last tip :). This was great help. The only problem I have now is figuring out what to do with all of the info, advice, and tips I'm getting from everyone but I'm sure I can do that myself :). <!-- Node text goes above. Div tags should contain sig only --> <div class="pmsig"><div class="pmsig-912359"> A Newbie To Perl </div></div> 914881 914904