note Anonymous Monk <p> Well, it does both :) the pad (lexpad, lexical pad) is attached to the CV ( Code Value, subroutine ), each scope creates a new pad ... maybe that is not gutsy enough, but [http://search.cpan.org/dist/illguts/index.html] elaborates more on the structure of the guts -- or were you looking for something different? 964726 964732 20