note syphilis This is all rather mysterious.<br><br> What version of Alien::SDL did you end up with ? (I have version 1.438.)<br>You'll get your version number by running: <c> perl -MAlien::SDL -e "print $Alien::SDL::VERSION" </c> Does the following also fail for you: <c> perl -MAlien::SDL -e "print Alien::SDL->config('libs')" </c> For me, that produces: <c> -L"C:\_32\strawberry516\perl\site\lib\auto\share\dist\Alien-SDL\1.438_a1ddf79e\bin\..\lib" -lmingw32 -lSDLmain -lSDL -mwindows </c> Cheers,<br>Rob 995107 995199