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Update the GUI
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by Anonymous Monk
on Jul 19, 2016 at 08:05
    Why the site GUI isn't upgrated to something more css like and more human readable?
Perlmonks proportion of Perl's "web presence" ?
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by LanX
on Jul 17, 2016 at 19:06

    How big is the importance of this site for the internet presence of the Perl community?

    Let's assume search results are representative...

    ... so when searching for Perl code, how probable is it that a search result leads me to the monastery?

    I have the impression most elaborated search queries ( like any word + " perl code " ) will show at least one link to this monastery among probably perldoc stuff ( ), CPAN-Modules (,, competitors ( and some hijacked "O'Relly" books.

    Is there a way to tell from google or DDG statistics?

    I think that the importance is even higher then 10%, because many monastery links are often subsumed under one "master" perlmonks link.

    Cheers Rolf
    (addicted to the Perl Programming Language and ☆☆☆☆ :)
    Je suis Charlie!

    changed title
"Default XML ticker style" and noderep ticker
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by RonW
on Jul 13, 2016 at 12:27

    Looking at my settings node, I noticed the setting "Default XML ticker style". In the description area, it lists several "valid" options, including "rss". So, I set it to "rss" (without the quotes). At least for the noderep ticker, RSS is not produced. Is this a bug with the noderep ticker?

Discrepacy in node reputation
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by johngg
on Jun 14, 2016 at 05:32

    I have just posted Re: Issues with Split and it has a rep. of 0 showing in "Nodes you wrote" and when looking at it directly. However, when looking at it in the OP's Issues with Split it has a rep. of 5. Bizarre!



Editing your writeup is now a separate action from viewing a thread and voting on replies
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by jdporter
on Jun 13, 2016 at 16:12

    Historically, when you view one of your writeups (e.g. a CUFP post), you are given a form right there in which to edit your post if you wish. The form fields for that were in the same form as the node voting buttons. This enabled surprising behavior, described here. Therefore, I have removed the "edit" form from the main display view of your posts and pushed it off into a separate edit page. So now, if you visit one of your writeups, you won't see an edit form right there, but you will see an 'Edit' link in the upper right.

    This change has already been in effect for about three months (as I mentioned) for certain sections — Obfuscated Code, Perl Poetry, Meditations, maybe others — and is now in effect for all sections: CUFP, PMD, Obfu, Meditations, News, SoPW, Tutorials, Inner Scriptorium, Poetry, Snippets, Code Catacombs, even Craft, as well as your replies in any section, and any posts of yours which have been thrown into the Off Topic bin.

    Update: Based on feedback from users such as BrowserUK below, I have added a user display option to have the writeup edit form directly on the display page, below the writeup, as previously. However, it is now enclosed in a separate form from the voting buttons, so that the "surprising behavior" can no longer occur.

    I reckon we are the only monastery ever to have a dungeon stuffed with 16,000 zombies.
Enhancing the new "display view"
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by choroba
on Jun 12, 2016 at 17:18
    Today I noticed that clicking on my reply doesn't open it in the "Edit" mode, but in a new "Display View". I like the change, but I'd appreciate adding an "Edit" option among "reply", "msg", "d/l", and "select" on my nodes:

    Blah blah blah...

    ($q=q:Sq=~/;[c](.)(.)/;chr(-||-|5+lengthSq)`"S|oS2"`map{chr |+ord }map{substrSq`S_+|`|}3E|-|`7**2-3:)=~y+S|`+$1,++print+eval$q,q,a,
"Your votes" giving inaccurate figures
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by davies
on Jun 08, 2016 at 16:49

    Having done some upvoting, I became curious about what my voting record was for a particular monk. I was surprised to be told that I had cast only 20 votes, the earliest in Oct 2015. I would have been surprised had it been only 10 times that number. I checked a thread from 2013 in which I was sure I had upvoted this monk and, sure enough, I can't vote on the node again. Checking another monk I am sure I have upvoted frequently, I again got only 20 votes. I have nothing in the limit fields and don't remember this behaviour. Shome mishtake shurely?


    John Davies

Pretty Print
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by jmlynesjr
on May 27, 2016 at 21:19

    Is there any chance that the processing for the "code" tag might be "enhanced" to do tab expansion? I keep forgetting to run my code posts through my stand-alone script and the alignment of my comments comes out "wavy". I know picky picky...


    There's never enough time to do it right, but always enough time to do it over...

Put the formatting information above the posting text box?
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by stevieb
on May 20, 2016 at 19:02

    I'm thinking primarily for SoPW (but I assume a change would affect all posting pages), does anyone think that it would have a positive effect if we had the formatting information (it's rather brief relative to having to scroll to the bottom of the page anyway) *above* the text box?

    I'm not really a statistical type person so this isn't a request for action, but a request for feedback.

On the serious issue of XP devaluation and other tangentially related or unrelated passing thoughts
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by oiskuu
on May 19, 2016 at 13:59

    Now that the shady practices of XP-clipping have been brought to light?, I was thinking this could be the right occasion to address the shortcomings—whether perceived or actual—of the feedback and voting mechanisms, that is to say, to mull things over.

    I'll start with a few ideas.

    • What if monks could cast two votes on any node: first strictly during the main voting period, the other available later (but no sooner than one voting period after the first). This would open up the possibilities of correcting mistakes, placing emphasis.
    • Reminder messages. A node that you've accepted has not been answered in 24 hours. A node you've frontpaged has no answer in 12 hours. (XP demerit elective.)
    • Preliminary votes ie temporary-votes ie fake-votes ie phantom-votes ie were-votes ie mere-hints. These votes disappear after a month or so. How's it going to work: somebody soft-votes to place your node higher in the thread, now other monks are more likely to vote on it, everyone's happy.
    • Monk of the Year. Get your pic (statue) on PM during the next year. (Best XP gainer wins the Trophy.)


The significance of 2010-03-16?
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by BrowserUk
on May 18, 2016 at 15:12

    Is there something significant about the date 2010-03-16 that explains why SioB stopped updating my total on that day?

    With the rise and rise of 'Social' network sites: 'Computers are making people easier to use everyday'
    Examine what is said, not who speaks -- Silence betokens consent -- Love the truth but pardon error.
    "Science is about questioning the status quo. Questioning authority". I knew I was on the right track :)
    In the absence of evidence, opinion is indistinguishable from prejudice.
Strange bug after replying
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by LanX
on May 14, 2016 at 13:05

    I tried to post a reply to File Parsing and saw this after sending

    here the corresponding xml

    <node id="218191" title="Re: File Parsing" created="2002-12-06 19:47:1 +4" updated="2016-05-14 12:52:02"><type id="11"> note</type><author id="214975"> cjf-II</author><data><field name="doctext"> <p>[id://218008] should point you in the right direction.</p></field>< +field name="root_node"> 218190</field><field name="parent_node"> 218190</field></data></node>

    apparently PM gets confused if two threads have the same title.


    This seems to be the resulting node Re: File Parsing

    Cheers Rolf
    (addicted to the Perl Programming Language and ☆☆☆☆ :)
    Je suis Charlie!

Querying Saints in our Book (2)
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by chacham
on May 13, 2016 at 10:40

    Extending Querying Saints in our Book, the script now includes Monk Levels, which helps when trying to group or order the data. More importantly, (if it indeed can be important) the query now includes XP Ratio, which is calculated by XP / Writeups.

    Fabricated numbers of some monks and monks with no writeups are outliers that mess up the numbers. So, the query returns two sets of ratios, with and without exclusions. Perhaps a more complicated rule for outliers can be devised.

    The current output of the (commented out) query is:

    MONK_LEVEL TITLE MIN MAX AVG MIN_X + MAX_X AVG_X ---------- ---------- ---------- ---------- ---------- ---------- ---- +------ ---------- 13 Curate .07 3654 53 .07 + 727.8 35.26 14 Priest 4.66 4560 65.43 4.66 + 4560 65.43 15 Vicar 5.43 1604 47.12 5.43 + 1604 47.12 16 Parson 6.53 7619 129.17 6.53 + 371.8 31.9 17 Prior 6.16 814.62 46.28 6.16 +814.62 46.28 18 Monsignor 5 243.02 33.02 5 +243.02 33.02 19 Abbot 4.03 1103.75 73.21 4.03 1 +103.75 73.21 20 Canon 5.27 127.72 23.32 5.27 +127.72 23.32 21 Chancellor 6.45 55.35 14.3 6.45 + 55.35 14.3 22 Bishop 9.51 78.21 21.93 9.51 + 78.21 21.93 23 Archbishop 7.77 16.04 10.9 7.77 + 16.04 10.9 24 Cardinal 10.26 20.19 15.22 10.26 + 20.19 15.22 25 Sage 8.99 11.26 10.44 8.99 + 11.26 10.44 28 Pope 6.48 1659.73 421.35 6.48 + 12.06 8.56 (All) .07 7619 61.85 .07 + 4560 43.37

    Notable, perhaps, is the average with exclusions is just over 43. Certainly more outliers can be excluded to "correct" that number. :)

    The use of this data can be called into question, though it is data and data is fun, right?

    FWIW, i occasionally update some useless data in Re: planetscape and me: 1282 nodes apiece. Though, i still haven't figured out why.

unreaping , reversing reaped, resurrecting a node
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by beech
on May 03, 2016 at 02:45
Is there a place on PM outlining community policy
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by Anonymous Monk
on Mar 22, 2016 at 22:39

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