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Dates of Monk promotion
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by u65
on Jun 16, 2015 at 06:20

    Is there any way to determine the date a Monk reached a certain level?

planetscape and me: 1282 nodes apiece
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by eyepopslikeamosquito
on Jun 15, 2015 at 23:54

    As a long time student of Saints in our Book, I noticed something unusual today, so unusual I took a snapshot of it before it disappeared:

    #UserExperienceLevel WriteupsUser SinceLast Here
    37planetscape29659Canon (20)12822005-03-27 09:2814 hours ago
    38eyepopslikeamosquito29559Canon (20)12822002-06-23 06:021 second ago

    Two adjacent monks in Saints in our Book with identical number of Writeups! Never seen that before.

    planetscape, after more than ten long years at the monastery, we wind up together on 1282 posts apiece, at least for a little while. I'm very happy about that because I've always enjoyed your thoughtful and insightful posts.

    Update: July 08 2015, exactly level now, both XP and Writeups! :)
    #UserExperienceLevel WriteupsUser SinceLast Here
    37planetscape29891Canon (20)12892005-03-27 09:281 hour ago
    38eyepopslikeamosquito29891Canon (20)12892002-06-23 06:021 second ago

perl poetry is spam?
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by Anonymous Monk
on Jun 11, 2015 at 20:07
    Hmm, i tried to post some perl poetry, got permission denied ... huh?
Show on the "Perl People and Organizations" page?
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by u65
on Jun 11, 2015 at 08:59

    The opinion of the Monks is not to have a separate Perl 6 section, but shouldn't the Perl 6 web site ( be shown on the subject page?

Terminal decline?
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by BrowserUk
on Jun 11, 2015 at 01:37

    A few numbers:

    node number: date: days: 100,000 26/07/2001 200,000 23/09/2002 424 300,000 17/10/2003 389 400,000 17/10/2004 366 500,000 13/10/2005 361 600,000 14/02/2007 489 700,000 24/07/2008 526 800,000 08/10/2009 441 900,000 18/04/2011 557 1000,000 19/10/2012 550 1100,000 09/09/2014 690 ... 1130,000 11/06/2015 275 today. ... 1200,000 14/03/2017 (917)(projected) 1300,000 17/09/2020 (1283)(projected)

    Those are the dates on which the N-hundred-thousanth node was posted; and the number of days to accumulate that 100,000 posts.

    Today we will likely reach 1,130,000. It will have taken 275 days to do so. projecting forward, 275 / 3 * 10 = 917 means it will be another 2 years before this place reaches the next 100,000 milestone.

    It took 25% more days to accumulate the 11th 100,000 than it did the tenth.

    Based on the projection, it will take 32% longer for the 12th than it did the 11th.

    And projecting that rate of decline forward means that we won't reach the 13th milestone until September 2020.

    You don't want to know about the one after that; because it won't happen.

    There are 2 choices

    1. Do something.

      Open our minds. Invite new blood. Fight to retain (or even return) old blood.

      Change something.

    2. Do nothing.

      Continue as we are; cloistered in our declining; deteriorating; smug little world.

      And die!

    Your choice guys. I've tried to liven this place up. Posted what I hoped would be interesting questions. Proposed change. Taken the insults.

    Now its down to the rest of you. Hide in the shadows pouring scorn and derision upon any and every suggestion. Or stand up and be counted.

    With the rise and rise of 'Social' network sites: 'Computers are making people easier to use everyday'
    Examine what is said, not who speaks -- Silence betokens consent -- Love the truth but pardon error.
    "Science is about questioning the status quo. Questioning authority". I'm with torvalds on this
    In the absence of evidence, opinion is indistinguishable from prejudice. Agile (and TDD) debunked
Multiple logins ill effects?
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by u65
on Jun 10, 2015 at 09:56
    Are there any ill effects from multiple logins (other than possible clashes with editing the same node)?
Perl 6 section?
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by u65
on Jun 07, 2015 at 09:08

    I have used Perl for some time and have eagerly awaited the arrival of Perl 6. I see that it is now very usable, so I have begun writing small programs with it and am enjoying its new features.

    Should there not be a new section devoted to Perl 6?

[OT] How about an Off Topic Section?
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by flexvault
on Jun 05, 2015 at 12:15

    Dear Monks,

    About once a week( sometimes more ) I see a question that is immediately answered as '...this is off topic, and you should ask on another forum...' which is technically correct.

    So why not have an 'OT' section?

    I have a lot of respect for the members of this forum, and not so much for other forums. If I see a comment about *nix, JS, HTML, etc., as part of an answer about Perl, I often find that response to be true and a valuable asset to my programming knowledge base.

    The OT section should have some relation to Perl, but I would much rather test ideas and comments from this forum, then rely on the *comments* from other forums. There is a wealth of real world knowledge from the Monks on, that just can't be duplicated on other forums.

    What do you think?


    "Well done is better than well said." - Benjamin Franklin

Is there an option to see the non answered questions?
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by thanos1983
on Jun 01, 2015 at 17:36

    Hello everyone,

    Does anyone know how to see the non answered questions? Every now and then I see non answered questions, I can be observing the portal 24/7 but I always welcome to see new ideas on how to use Perl. Most of the time this happens through non answered questions. So does anyone know if there is an option to activate it?

    Thanks in advance for your time and effort.

    Seeking for Perl wisdom...on the process of learning...not there...yet!
Can I please have multiple downvotes per (certain monk's) posts.
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by BrowserUk
on May 29, 2015 at 10:30

    I'd willing give up 5 XP per downvote to do it. 10 even.

    With the rise and rise of 'Social' network sites: 'Computers are making people easier to use everyday'
    Examine what is said, not who speaks -- Silence betokens consent -- Love the truth but pardon error.
    "Science is about questioning the status quo. Questioning authority". I'm with torvalds on this
    In the absence of evidence, opinion is indistinguishable from prejudice. Agile (and TDD) debunked
Password request
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by Sandy
on May 17, 2015 at 23:04
    Someone has been repeatedly asking for my password. I am going to assume it's a mistake, but please stop! UPDATE: I was hoping that whomever was trying for the password would read this, then realize that they were in fact using the wrong "username"
Ignore monks in last hour of cb
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by chacham
on Apr 29, 2015 at 15:04

    ignored users only works for the displayed CB. last hour of cb goes unfettered, but maybe the following Greasemonkey script can help with that.

    TMTOWTDI. The first /* commented out */ method uses <del> to strike the names and texts. The second deletes the rows entirely.

    The included script ignores paco and NodeReaper, two notorious monks that just say the oddest things. Kudos to Tanktalus for the history itself.

    Disclaimer: I mostly googled this one together.

    // ==UserScript== // @name cb history Ignore // @namespace // @description strikeout of remove ignored users from last hour of cb // @include // @grant none // ==/UserScript== var ignore = ['paco' , 'NodeReaper']; /* // encapsulate in <del> var author = document.getElementsByClassName('cb_author'); for (var i = 0; i < author.length; i++) for (var j in ignore) if (author[i].children[0].text == ignore[j]) { author[i].innerHTML = '<del>' + author[i].innerHTML + '</del>'; author[i].parentElement.parentElement.children[1].innerHTML = '<del +>' + author[i].parentElement.parentElement.children[1].innerHTML + '< +/del>'; } */ // remove rows var table = document.getElementsByClassName('cb_author')[0].parentElem +ent.parentElement.parentElement.parentElement; for (var i = (table.rows.length -1) ; i >= 0; i--) if(ignore.indexOf(table.rows[i].cells[0].children[1].children[0].text +) != -1) table.deleteRow(i);

    UPDATE: ambrus's comment below seems far superior.

Chatbox too small
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by Lady_Aleena
on Apr 16, 2015 at 17:45

    Today I was trying to lengthen the chatbox on the FullPage Chat. I added the following to my css in my display settings, but the talk button didn't move so the chatbox was under the talk button.

    .chatbox { width: 125%; }

    Can we please get a longer chatbox? Currently only about 40 characters can be seen at a time. A longer chatbox would mean fewer typos, IMO. So pretty please with sugar cookies on top? ")

    No matter how hysterical I get, my problems are not time sensitive. So, relax, have a cookie, and a very nice day!
    Lady Aleena
The boy who cried...
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by BrowserUk
on Mar 31, 2015 at 13:22

    At what point does the Troll-caller become the troll? Discuss.

Change default style sheet: add line numbers
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by roboticus
on Mar 28, 2015 at 09:54

    Hello, all--

    I suggest that the default style sheet be changed to add line numbers to code listings. I've had that set up on my style sheet for quite some time now, and find it pretty convenient.

    We frequently have people give us chunks of code and associated error messages whose line numbers don't match the code. Sometimes the querants will annotate their code with a comment telling which line is which. I'm thinking that if they are able to see the line numbers, it may encourage some of the posters to tie the line numbers and error messages together better, possibly reducing one round of questions.


    When your only tool is a hammer, all problems look like your thumb.

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