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headline tags?
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by LanX
on Jun 07, 2014 at 13:02
    Why do we allow <h1> tags at all?

    See Unlink not deleting, Threading issue? again...

    The board rules discourage using them¹, but we could either

    • disable H1 ... H3
    • or smoothen them by CSS
    I'm fully aware ofmy freedom to adjust my personal CSS in the settings and share them here...

    But do we really need the resulting discussion after someone misbehaved again?


    To give all of this a more productive turn...

    Any CSS-suggestions for H1..H3?

    Such that they are

    • acceptably large
    • still "more prominent" than H4
    • w/o downsizing H4..H6 (backwards compatibility for older posts)

    Cheers Rolf

    (addicted to the Perl Programming Language)


    ¹) Heading tags, <h3>...</h3>, and smaller (through <h6>) may be used


    just noticed that H3 is still accepted here, so please rethink the ranges I suggested

Clarification of Consideration - minor addition suggested
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by wjw
on Jun 04, 2014 at 13:43

    In How does Nodes to Consider work?, it would be helpful, I think, to clarify the section showing:

    • four radio buttons, labeled 'keep', 'edit', 'reap', and 'nada' (the default).
    • the requestor and text of the consideration.

    Suggested Content:

    • four radio buttons, labeled 'keep', 'edit', 'reap', and 'nada' (the default).
      Don't modify in any way. Leave it alone.
      Suggest the OP (or the Janitors) modify the posting as suggested by the considering Monk.
      Completely remove the node under consideration.
      I don't want to vote on this consideration right now, maybe later.
    • the requester and text of the consideration.

    The same might be helpful in How do I use the power of consideration responsibly? as well?

    ...the majority is always wrong, and always the last to know about it...

    Insanity: Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results...

    A solution is nothing more than a clearly stated problem...otherwise, the problem is not a problem, it is a facct

Proposal - Update shortcuts pointing to to link to
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by marto
on Jun 03, 2014 at 07:07
Code tags vs Readmore
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by chacham
on May 23, 2014 at 07:20

    There are a couple things i wonder about, from time to time, about the code tag. One, the width makes a lot of code wrap when on my screen there is no need. Two, code can get longer and i wish it were a readmore tag instead.

    The code tag seems to wrap at 70 characters, is that to support terminals? Perhaps that could be an option, so those with wider screens have the option of seeing it unwrapped.

    The readmore tag is intended to keep a post from being too long. Yet, though a code tag pretties it up, it does not shorten it. Leaving it long certainly allows for quicker reading on the page, though it hinders getting to the start of the next post.

    Just some thoughts.

Some more modern forum engine?
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by llancet
on May 03, 2014 at 22:44

    As a user, I think there are at least two disadvantages on the design of perlmonks forum:

    There are too many objects on the right side.

    Does not support uploading pictures.

    It seems the use of JavaScript are avoided. Is it the reason that we can only have such plain pages? Maybe you can find some forum engine which can render two sets of pages: one only plain HTML, the other one with the full use of CSS, JS, HTML5, etc.

Permission Denied?
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by Anonymous Monk
on Apr 28, 2014 at 14:38

    Dear Monks,

    Sometimes when I try to post (reply to a question, most recently this one), I get the Permission Denied page, without any particular explanation. Any idea as to why?

    This does not happen on the Preview, which makes it somewhat frustrating to have just typed up and proofread a response and then not be able to post it.

    Thanks in advance.

chk boxes in chatterbox
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by HarryPutnam
on Apr 25, 2014 at 18:10
    What is supposed to happen when you check the boxes in chatterbox?

    I took it to be some way to make sense of the confusing flow of messages in various thread, and assumed once checked, that box would disappear, allowing you to keep up with the responses you've read

    After fiddling with it for a while... I really don't see what it does at all.

Some better way to read/post/follow threads
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by HarryPutnam
on Apr 25, 2014 at 18:01
    There seems to be a real wealth of knowledge on PerlMonks.

    I'm quite a new user... and find the interface for reading and posting in threads is difficult to follow. After just scanning briefly thru some of the setup stuff, I saw no section devoted to how threads are presented.

    Hopefully I'm just blind to seeing how to set things up in some way I can follow better. If so I hope some kind Monk will steer me toward the relevant information.

    Is it possible to connect with the various forums, thru NNTP? And use them like regular usenet is setup?

    Is it possible, thru personal settings or whatever to get my group reading interface to resemble the one available on gmane. With Frames and threading so the groups appear in the tried and venerable style of usenet

Pretify the site with CSS?
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by Anonymous Monk
on Apr 23, 2014 at 14:12
    Can you suggest and share some custom made CSS examples that make Perl Monks more pleasing to the eye and easier to read ?
OpenSSL Status
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by papidave
on Apr 19, 2014 at 18:33
    Inasmuch as Heartbleed is forcing admins all over the internet to patch their servers, and inasmuch as it's considered wise to change one's passwords after said patching, I'm wondering if PM:
    1. was ever vulnerable to the OpenSSL issue known as Heartbleed, and
    2. if we're all patched, so I can reset my password.

    Thanks muchly,


propose updating node about linking to cpan modules
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by Lotus1
on Apr 16, 2014 at 11:34

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by milan.dalwadi
on Apr 11, 2014 at 03:07
    To front page or not ? [ANSWERED]
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    by Bloodnok
    on Apr 10, 2014 at 06:35
      Greetings fellow approvers,

      Pray tell, what are the considerations &/or constraints to be applied when deciding whether, or not, to front page a node ?


      Many thanks to the respondents - it's all much clearer now ... for a Friday :-)

      A user level that continues to overstate my experience :-))
    "Message Inbox" is not displaying messages
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    by kcott
    on Mar 06, 2014 at 21:13

      My Message Inbox is indicating "Inbox (2)" but no messages are displayed.

      I can see both messages in the Chatterbox section.

      I've tried accessing the Message Inbox via the following links:

      •;srch_folder=0: the "And 0 more" link in the Chatterbox section.
      • the "... private messages ..." link in Message Settings.
      • the "... Message Inbox ..." link in Message Outbox.

      Logging out and back in again didn't fix it.

      I also tried logging in to and no messages were displayed in the Message Inbox using these URLs.

      -- Ken

    Avoiding accidential reposts
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    by LanX
    on Feb 25, 2014 at 17:24
      This is not a feature request!

      ... more a meditation. :)

      If we'd supply a unique id for each comment session, could this be used to reject or warn about accidental reposts?

      I.e. after clicking "comment" a hidden field would contain something composed from parent-node-id + user-id + timestamp + random number and passed thru the "preview" and "create" stages.

      After first posting this ID could be "disabled". Either by storing in the DB-table holding the final post or by caching it for x hours.

      A considerable part of NTCs deals with such accidental duplicates and even experienced monks regularly fall into the trap (especially when using mobile clients)

      Am I missing something?

      If this was already discussed before please point me to the discussion.

      Cheers Rolf

      ( addicted to the Perl Programming Language)

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