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consideration style for spam nodes
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by LanX
on Oct 09, 2014 at 12:02

    as you can see, there have been many spam nodes reaped recently without mentioning the word "spam" within the consideration.

    click and hit search to see

    Please, in order to facilitate the update of the spam filter from time to time, it'll be nice if you could all try to write something like "Reap: spam" or so.¹

    The update is done manually, use of SuperSearch helps a lot here! :)

    Cheers Rolf

    (addicted to the Perl Programming Language and ☆☆☆☆ :)

    ¹) at least mention " spam " somewhere ...

Daily Best Thread?
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by QM
on Sep 29, 2014 at 05:01
    Being a somewhat erratic reader here, I find the Daily/Weekly/Monthly Best Nodes helpful to find high quality content in my limited time. (AFAIK, Daily Best does not have it's own page, but is derived from Best Nodes, and there's more info at About the Daily Best Nodelet.)

    But I often feel I'm missing out on the OPs that have lots of good discussion, while not making it into Best Nodes.

    My question: Is there a "Best Thread" mechanism? If not, is there enough interest to consider making one?

    Of course, this begs the question of what a "Best Thread" is, because we don't vote on threads. Given the current scheme, we'd have to compute some thread score, such as Sum_of_Node_Votes / Number_of_Nodes. Perhaps throw in a multiplier for unique responders, or unique readers.

    I did a quick search here, but of course "thread" comes up with the other kind, and I didn't find anything relevant. Please point me to any previous discussions.

    Quantum Mechanics: The dreams stuff is made of

Message Inbox bug?
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by tel2
on Sep 10, 2014 at 19:32
    Hi Monks,

    On the Perlmonks website, if I have some messages in my Inbox, and want to archive them, I bring them up on the Message Inbox page, and then I do this:
       {Move} ({x} all but) selected to {Archive}   (where 'x' is a tick)
    without having to select any of the messages. This works and seems logical to me, but doing exactly the same thing without ticking the "all but" box, seems to give exactly the same result (i.e. it archives all the (unselected) messages).

    Why does this happen? Is this a bug? Is this a feature? Or am I just losing my logic?


PerlMonks meets Twitter Bootstrap
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by tobyink
on Sep 02, 2014 at 15:56

    Here's what it looks like: screenshot.

    And, here's how to do it. Paste the following into your Free Nodelet:

    <script type="text/javascript" src="// +n.js"></script> <script type="text/javascript" src="// +p/3.2.0/js/bootstrap.min.js"></script> <script type="text/javascript" src="// +ighlight.js/8.2/highlight.min.js"></script> <script type="text/javascript" src="//"> +</script>

    Then in Nodelet Settings make sure your Free Nodelet isn't hidden.

    If you want to play around with the idea, adjust the URL to point to a script file on your own server; grab a copy of the Javascript and CSS files and have fun!

perlmonks site
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by rsFalse
on Sep 02, 2014 at 05:37
    I dislike: small texts at this site, white background of site (it's uncomfortable for my eyes), inability to reply to forum post. I like: answers on topics, and other... // guest-newbie
Meeting & conference announcements (updated with suggested guidelines)
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by davies
on Jul 26, 2014 at 13:14

    I cannot find any guidelines for announcing Perl related events on this site. I have seen some events announced with requests for talks here, but not others. I am asking now because this year's London Perl Workshop has just been announced, but it is a question that has exercised my mind when other events have come up, such as the London PM tech meet two days ago (Thursday).

    Do such guidelines exist? If not, what should the guidelines contain? The simplest guideline of all is "Don't", but as I said above, it's one I have frequently seen broken. Do people want to know about major conferences only, lesser ones like the tech meet, routine pub events, emergency pub events? Where notices include publicity blurb about sponsors, should this be repeated or edited out?

    For any London mongers reading this, I happily volunteer to post notices about London events here, once I know I'm not doing the wrong thing. If guidelines exist or are created that permit such postings, I also volunteer to put a copy of the LPW 2014 notice in Perl news, unless someone else would prefer to do it.


    John Davies

    Update 2014-07-29

    I have received fewer replies & suggestions than I hoped. I'm therefore putting up my own suggestions for guidelines. Please note that they are my suggestions. If the Gods see things differently, their word goes.

  • It's good to talk. News of any sort of meeting should be posted on this site in the Perl news section (
  • If this isn't the primary or first place a notice is posted, the notice should be of the form Title, Explanation (if the title isn't enough), Time, Place, Link to full details.
  • Repeated events should all be in the same thread. Each new case of an event should have a post of its own. I.e. there should be a thread for the London Perl Workshop, with each year's event having a new node in the thread.
  • Fewer threads are better than more, but materially different events should have their own thread. London would therefore have three threads, LPW, tech meets & social meets, with emergency socials being grouped with routine & heretic socials.
  • IMHO, any existing posts should be used as a starting point. If there are more than one that should be in a series, they should be considered and re-parented as necessary. But I'll wait for janitorial or Godly opinions before I start considering such nodes. If the amount of work is a problem, I hereby volunteer, if granted the power by the gods, to do it.

Broken link - Offering Plate Node / Click here to donate!
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by bcarroll
on Jul 09, 2014 at 19:49
Is there a policy on updating RFCs?
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by RonW
on Jun 30, 2014 at 16:12

    I have posted an RFC in Meditations. I have made some significant updates to it, but updated nodes don't seem to count as "new". I hesitate to post a new meditation as I don't want to spam PM.

    I have searched the FAQ and PM discussions, but I may have missed something.

missing cookie from/for
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by Anonymous Monk
on Jun 20, 2014 at 04:14

    Hello it's Danny, when i visit my browser sends the following cookie along withe the GET request:

    Cookie: blnx=; __utma=243798916.2119672792.1403198838.1403242929.1403245114.4; __utmz=243798916.1403198838.1.1.utmcsr=(direct)|utmccn=(direct)|utmcmd=(none); __ctxpop=1; __iswl_wwwperlmonkscom=0; userpass=; __utmc=243798916.

    Where does that cookie come from, because it cannot be set by the server it appears, and its missing from my cookiejar, if i visit perlmonks with a cookie-test program, fe using www::mechanize. Sure hope you can help me because im unable to find adequate documentation about this.

headline tags?
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by LanX
on Jun 07, 2014 at 13:02
    Why do we allow <h1> tags at all?

    See Unlink not deleting, Threading issue? again...

    The board rules discourage using them¹, but we could either

    • disable H1 ... H3
    • or smoothen them by CSS
    I'm fully aware ofmy freedom to adjust my personal CSS in the settings and share them here...

    But do we really need the resulting discussion after someone misbehaved again?


    To give all of this a more productive turn...

    Any CSS-suggestions for H1..H3?

    Such that they are

    • acceptably large
    • still "more prominent" than H4
    • w/o downsizing H4..H6 (backwards compatibility for older posts)

    Cheers Rolf

    (addicted to the Perl Programming Language)


    ¹) Heading tags, <h3>...</h3>, and smaller (through <h6>) may be used


    just noticed that H3 is still accepted here, so please rethink the ranges I suggested

Clarification of Consideration - minor addition suggested
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by wjw
on Jun 04, 2014 at 13:43

    In How does Nodes to Consider work?, it would be helpful, I think, to clarify the section showing:

    • four radio buttons, labeled 'keep', 'edit', 'reap', and 'nada' (the default).
    • the requestor and text of the consideration.

    Suggested Content:

    • four radio buttons, labeled 'keep', 'edit', 'reap', and 'nada' (the default).
      Don't modify in any way. Leave it alone.
      Suggest the OP (or the Janitors) modify the posting as suggested by the considering Monk.
      Completely remove the node under consideration.
      I don't want to vote on this consideration right now, maybe later.
    • the requester and text of the consideration.

    The same might be helpful in How do I use the power of consideration responsibly? as well?

    ...the majority is always wrong, and always the last to know about it...

    Insanity: Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results...

    A solution is nothing more than a clearly stated problem...otherwise, the problem is not a problem, it is a facct

Proposal - Update shortcuts pointing to to link to
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by marto
on Jun 03, 2014 at 07:07
Code tags vs Readmore
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by chacham
on May 23, 2014 at 07:20

    There are a couple things i wonder about, from time to time, about the code tag. One, the width makes a lot of code wrap when on my screen there is no need. Two, code can get longer and i wish it were a readmore tag instead.

    The code tag seems to wrap at 70 characters, is that to support terminals? Perhaps that could be an option, so those with wider screens have the option of seeing it unwrapped.

    The readmore tag is intended to keep a post from being too long. Yet, though a code tag pretties it up, it does not shorten it. Leaving it long certainly allows for quicker reading on the page, though it hinders getting to the start of the next post.

    Just some thoughts.

Some more modern forum engine?
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by llancet
on May 03, 2014 at 22:44

    As a user, I think there are at least two disadvantages on the design of perlmonks forum:

    There are too many objects on the right side.

    Does not support uploading pictures.

    It seems the use of JavaScript are avoided. Is it the reason that we can only have such plain pages? Maybe you can find some forum engine which can render two sets of pages: one only plain HTML, the other one with the full use of CSS, JS, HTML5, etc.

Permission Denied?
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by Anonymous Monk
on Apr 28, 2014 at 14:38

    Dear Monks,

    Sometimes when I try to post (reply to a question, most recently this one), I get the Permission Denied page, without any particular explanation. Any idea as to why?

    This does not happen on the Preview, which makes it somewhat frustrating to have just typed up and proofread a response and then not be able to post it.

    Thanks in advance.

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