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Request for an update to: What shortcuts can I use for linking to other information?
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by taint
on Dec 03, 2013 at 12:19

    Greetings, Monks. I recently had a "shoot out" with marto. I think we both had valid points. It all stemmed from the shortcut link to the FreeBSD man pages (note I didn't just link man to the man pages ;)

    Point(s) were. I assumed, that because the link was to the FreeBSD man pages, that the returned results would be from the FreeBSD commands. But (counter intuitively) they are to SuSE Linux. This came as a bit of a shock to me. As the link to the PerlMonks short cuts page
    What shortcuts can I use for linking to other information?

    Unix man pages: A specific command: [man://command name] Search form: [man://] (no args)
    makes no mention that the links points to Linux versions of the commands. But rather, indicates they're UNIX man pages.

    Personally, I find/found this to be a bit counter intuitive. As such, I'd like to purpose an addition to that section. That clarifies the expected return results. eg; man pages for SuSE Linux.

    Not particularly a big deal. But seems that it would be more intuitive, if users knew in advance that the results weren't necessarily from FreeBSD, even tho the link points there.

    Well. Thanks for your consideration, and best wishes.


    UPDATE; converted quoted node id, to proper link via [id://]

    #!/usr/bin/perl -Tw
    use Perl::Always or die;
    my $perl_version = (5.12.5);
    print $perl_version;
A thought for the leader on SOPW
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by taint
on Nov 27, 2013 at 10:12

    ASCII is an endangered species. Choose your characters wisely.


    #!/usr/bin/perl -Tw
    use Perl::Always or die;
    my $perl_version = (5.12.5);
    print $perl_version;
approved chatter tags allows blink, remove it?
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by BlinkingLanX
on Nov 26, 2013 at 22:49
Would it make any sense to add "graduation announcement(s)" in the nodelets?
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by taint
on Nov 25, 2013 at 17:06

    Just a thought. But I wondered how it might be received to have announcements in the nodelets area,. That scrolled up, much like the CB does. But with announcements of the PerlMonks users that have just graduated to a higher level. It seems fitting of the theme, and times; hoisting a tankard to a fellow Monk who has just graduated to a higher level. I dunno. Just a thought. I thought it might attract people, or possibly be well received.


    #!/usr/bin/perl -Tw
    use Perl::Always or die;
    my $perl_version = (5.12.5);
    print $perl_version;
How do I link to an internal target on CPAN?
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by roboticus
on Nov 25, 2013 at 10:59
I apologize for yesterday's downtime
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by ambrus
on Nov 16, 2013 at 15:36

    For more than three hours yesterday, the Perlmonks website was broken: it was impossible to post any new writeup. It was me who caused this downtime by urging Corion to apply a particular pmdev patch I wrote, when that patch had a bug. I hereby apologize to all monks.

    The details. The downtime lasted between approximately 2013-11-15 15:00 UTC to 2013-11-15 18:45 UTC. The patch was looksLikeSpam - (patch).

[solved] SOPW buggy? test for cf006
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by LanX
on Nov 04, 2013 at 06:43
Misplaced node
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by Athanasius
on Nov 03, 2013 at 07:03
Broken (or possibly outdated) links in editor lists (2013-10-25)
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by atcroft
on Oct 25, 2013 at 01:07

    A few nights ago, I went looking to find other options in the way of editors to try out. I found links to Code Editors and Development Environments and Perl Development Tools, and began opening links to see what each was about. I found several links, however, that appear to have suffered bit-rot, and thought I should bring it to someone's attention. Where I could, I have tried also to find or suggest updated or possibly better links.

    Hope this information proves helpful. Your thoughts?

    Update: 2013-10-25
    Wrap list in readmore tags, due to length/appearance on section page.

Perl News contributions broken?
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by mpersico
on Oct 20, 2013 at 19:47
Does the 'Newest Nodes' syndication node (id 30175) accept any parameters?
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by shriken
on Oct 16, 2013 at 11:24

    The Newest Nodes node offers a syndication feed via a LINK tag:

    <link rel="alternate" title="Newest Nodes RSS" href="?node_id=30175;xmlstyle=rss" type="application/rss+xml">

    Does node ID 30175 accept any additional parameters? ...for example, a parameter that says "just show me the feed for top-level nodes?", or perhaps just nodes in certain sections?

    The Recent Threads node offers this sort of filtering, but I was hoping to be able to get a tuned syndication feed.

Creating a node with spoilers is a challenge
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by talexb
on Oct 04, 2013 at 11:38

    A slightly different problem than my previous post .. creating a post with the spoiler tags already in place means that, after a preview, the spoiler is .. hidden. And if I click on the link to reveal the spoilers, my post disappears (yay for the Back button).

    No problem, I ended up replacing the spoiler tags with text like spoiler here soon, and made sure to put the spoiler tags back in once I as done editing.

    Alex / talexb / Toronto

    Thanks PJ. We owe you so much. Groklaw -- RIP -- 2003 to 2013.

Replying to a node hides revealed spoilers
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by talexb
on Oct 04, 2013 at 11:07

    Just now I tried to respond to one of Tanktalus's posts that contained a spoiler. Since I wanted to respond specifically to the material in the spoiler, I revealed the spoiler (shown here), then clicked on reply -- only to get the node with the spoiler hidden again.

    I can work around this, but .. I think that's a bug. :)

    Alex / talexb / Toronto

    Thanks PJ. We owe you so much. Groklaw -- RIP -- 2003 to 2013.

Guidance Requested: Spelling in Titles?
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by marinersk
on Sep 29, 2013 at 10:32
    I've poured pored over all the Friar duties and responsibilities links (perhaps too many at once is my problem) and I find a conflict.

    On one hand it says we don't correct spelling; on the other hand it says the titles are the key to long term usability of the site.

    So what happens when a keyword for search is misspelled in the title?

    I recently submitted what I think was my first NTC and I may have committed a social faux pas, in that I requested a spelling correction on node title.

    Just looking to see if I should refrain from that particular activity in the future, given my confusion after reading conflicting guidance in the veritable sea of PerlMonks documentation. :-)

    Update: Thanks to everyone who sent me private chat messages with s/poured/pored/. I was starting to think it was some kind of old PerlMonks insider joke or something, but after getting multiple identical messages, it finally dawned on me that I might have a typo in my post.

    Context is everything. :-)

RFC: "Nodes to consider" - sort contents?
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by wjw
on Sep 29, 2013 at 01:35

    Nodes to Consider

    General:I have just recently started actively indulging in my civic responsibility by going to the "Nodes for consideration" and tossing in my two cents worth.

    I thought it might be useful to be able to sort the section entries by those that I have already votes on as compared to those I have not, putting those that I have not at the top so that they are readily available, and those that I have towards the bottom.

    Proposal:Sort of the work to do first, and the work done last.

    (I did do a super search to see if this had been suggested before, but did not find this issue addressed as far back as 2004.)


    • My thinking is that (assuming the results come from a DB) this would be a simple addition of an "order by" in the query.

      (I did also look around for an existing way to "personalize" the display of this section, no luck. So if I missed it, please let me know.)

    • Gives the advantage of getting to the work to do first, without wading through the work that has been done already

    Thanks for taking the time to read this, and do educate me if this seems foolish.

    Suggestions by others:
    • A good idea added by Athanasius below - Add "submit" to top of page - ...Thanks!
    • kcott pointed out that it was unclear whether or not I was asking for considerations to be broken out into their originating sections. For clarification: I am not interested in that. Only that the things to be done come prior to the things that have already been done. Thanks kcott for pointing that out!
    • ambrus asked that the title be change to correctly identify the subject(Also added to the text of the node). Thanks ambrus! Done.
    • Perlbotics pointed out the following node which makes for a substantial improvement "Nodes To Consider" - Hide Nodes Already Voted (CSS)
      Thanks much Perlbotics!
      I still stand by the sorting idea. davies points out some of the reasons in Re^2: RFC: "Nodes for consideration" - sort contents?

    Update:(second update to clean up a damned closing tag)

    So, It has been a while and I think anyone who was interested commented. Thanks much for that. In the mean time, I have learned a bit due to some of those comments and because I spent more time on the site. I can see that the suggestion has limited value relative to other issues at the site. On the other hand, like I said, I certainly learned along the way.

    I appreciate the feedback and the patience of those that have been about the place for a while and am satisfied.

    'nough said on this subject! :-)

    Next pint of ale is on me...

    • ...the majority is always wrong, and always the last to know about it...
    • my will, and by will alone.. I set my mind in motion

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