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PM's notoriety in the real world

by racer_x (Sexton)
on Jul 04, 2002 at 02:47 UTC ( #179379=monkdiscuss: print w/replies, xml ) Need Help??

Hey Monks. I always thought the XP system of this site was a really nifty idea. Clearly this system institutes a clear hierarchy of reputation on the site, but I was wondering if any of you have found your (high) status on Perl Monks has actually earned you any off-site notoriety.

For example, in a job interview, has anyone ever asked you if you are a member of this site and what your rank was? Has anyone put their PM rank on their resume and had a prospective employer remark positively about it? How many of your employers really know about the site?

Just curious :^)

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Re: PM's notoriety in the real world
by Abigail-II (Bishop) on Jul 04, 2002 at 12:53 UTC
    I certainly won't hope that there's any employer that's foolish enough to think Perlmonks XP system rates Perl knowledge. It does not! It rates *popularity* (not of author, but of subject). Ask a web-related not really Perl question that was asked 5 times in the previous month, get frontpaged, and you're likely to earn 100 XP. Just for asking, not for knowing. Answer a complicated question about IPC, correcting a dozen answers that were wrong, with lots of code, and you're likely to get about 5 XP.

    Questions often get far more XP than answers to those questions. Answers to complicated questions usually get even less. Knowing less will actually earn you more XP, and a higher status than knowing more. Not to mention that once after you've gotten a few points, you can work up to saint by just hanging around and voting.

    I'm glad my employer never asked about Perlmonks. I have been asked what my CPAN id was though.


      My perlmonks 'rank' is complete proof of everything Abigail just said *g*. coreolyn
      I'm 100% agree with you and, to help you to show that situation is even worse than you just said, I have some examples of answers to a complicated question with a lot of work and corrections, which gained few XP, but, after casual mass-downvoting, their XP became negative!

      Sometimes thoughtful answer even loses few XP!

      Courage, the Cowardly Dog.

Re: PM's notoriety in the real world
by Aristotle (Chancellor) on Jul 04, 2002 at 03:02 UTC
    I would rather not work in a place that gave me recognition for a high XP here. I don't even pay attention to XP on the site itself - people make an impression with me by what they post. Quite obviously someone who is likely to make an impression is someone who is likely to get a lot of upvotes. But XP is the consequence of respect, if it is anything at all. If respect is given as a consequence of XP, we get a destructive feedback loop.

    Makeshifts last the longest.

Re: PM's notoriety in the real world
by chromatic (Archbishop) on Jul 04, 2002 at 08:12 UTC
    I've had two jobs due (in part) to my notoriety here, and several offers. I think this may be an exception, though.
Re: PM's notoriety in the real world
by theorbtwo (Prior) on Jul 04, 2002 at 09:53 UTC

    My resumé has Perl Monks in the activities section. Of course, I don't have a job, but I doubt the two are related. (Yes, this post is a self-serving way to get my resume out.)

    We are using here a powerful strategy of synthesis: wishful thinking. -- The Wizard Book

Re: PM's notoriety in the real world
by vek (Prior) on Jul 05, 2002 at 00:17 UTC
    Please, please don't get the impression that your XP on this site really means anything to anyone in the real world. As some have already noted there are ways in which XP can be gained that have absolutely nothing to do with how much Perl knowledge you actually have.

    You will want to be rather scared of any employer that seriously considers your XP "ranking" as something of importance.


    -- vek --
Re: PM's notoriety in the real world
by grep (Monsignor) on Jul 08, 2002 at 06:54 UTC
    As someone who has hired a perlmonk, I did not use XP at all. I did use the wonderful archive of previous posts the candidate made to gauge not just technical ability, but also to get some insight on his/her personality.

    <cheesy sale pitch voice>

    I found perlmonks invaluable and the new employee worked out wonderfully

    <cheesy sale pitch voice>

    Just me, the boy and these two monks, no questions asked.

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