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Re^4: Uniquely identifying each & every html template

by Nik
on Jan 21, 2013 at 17:05 UTC ( #1014498=note: print w/ replies, xml ) Need Help??


in reply to Re^3: Uniquely identifying each & every html template
in thread Uniquely identifying each & every html template

those criteria mean that any two files could be considered the same, which is a nonsense; which is why I ignored the possibility that you actually meant that; and assumed your description was lacking precision.
No, it is not a nonsense. Imagine me in real life:

1. i'am altering my real name
2. i'am changing the location of where i live
3. i face lift myself.

Am i not still the same person i used to be?
However, inserting a piece of information -- say a custom html-like tag or html comment -- into each html file -- regardless of whether the are 100's 1000's or 100s of 1000s would be the works of a few minutes. At least it would be for Perl.
And what if the .html page gets rewritten by DreamWeaver or Joomla and the certain piece of information is overwwitten, thus gets lost?


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Re^5: Uniquely identifying each & every html template
by tobyink (Abbot) on Jan 21, 2013 at 17:19 UTC

    Am i not still the same person i used to be?

    Perhaps.

    Upon being presented with an award by the council for saving money by using the same broom for 20 years, a character in a famous British sitcom said:

    And that's what I've done. Maintained it for 20 years. This old broom's had 17 new heads and 14 new handles in its time.

    To which the inevitable response is, how the hell can it be the same bloody broom then?

    This is an ancient question, best known as Theseus' paradox.

    Most of the cells in your body aren't much more than a few years old. (Some are in it for the long haul - after adolescence we don't grow many more brain cells for example - we just start putting them to better use!) So are you the same person that you were 10 years ago?

    If you think you are, what makes you the same person? What has been the constant factor that you can point to over the last ten years that allows you to consider yourself to be a continuation of the same person?

    Now, to more practical matters, what constant factor can you point to over file changes that allows you to consider two files to be the same file? Write an algorithm to detect that factor. Job done.

    package Cow { use Moo; has name => (is => 'lazy', default => sub { 'Mooington' }) } say Cow->new->name
      yes indeed! after changing broom's part the broom isnt wat it used to be just like myself :)

      I dont have a constant factor for the files but i guess if the file's contents change then its not to be considered the same file anymore....even if it has the slightest change and the subject remains the same....

      So you advice me to use the hash method, being a number that is produced by by the file's contents at that time?
Re^5: Uniquely identifying each & every html template
by BrowserUk (Pope) on Jan 21, 2013 at 17:56 UTC
    Am i not still the same person i used to be?

    Has your DNA changed? If not, you are detectably the same person.

    So now all you need is something to detect in your files to make the determination.

    But if Dreamweaver glitches and empties the file, you're stuffed.


    With the rise and rise of 'Social' network sites: 'Computers are making people easier to use everyday'
    Examine what is said, not who speaks -- Silence betokens consent -- Love the truth but pardon error.
    "Science is about questioning the status quo. Questioning authority".
    In the absence of evidence, opinion is indistinguishable from prejudice.
      Yes and i dont know if joomla does it too.....

      BUT i dont want to embed strings inside every files content.

      There must be some other way to identify the file, NOT the following attributes:

      1. filename
      2. filepath
      3. hash
      3. embedded string

      Really....how's the OS detects each file and its modifications?
        how's the OS detects each file and its modifications?

        It doesn't. When you edit a file, with most programs, the edited file is written out to a completely new file (with a temporary name), then the old file is deleted, and the temporary file is renamed to the old filename. The *ONLY* link between them is the name.

        That's life. Stop wishing for the impossible.


        With the rise and rise of 'Social' network sites: 'Computers are making people easier to use everyday'
        Examine what is said, not who speaks -- Silence betokens consent -- Love the truth but pardon error.
        "Science is about questioning the status quo. Questioning authority".
        In the absence of evidence, opinion is indistinguishable from prejudice.

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