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Re^2: (Toward a better PerlMonks) Who do we serve, and why, and how can we do it better?

by sundialsvc4 (Monsignor)
on Jun 11, 2013 at 02:10 UTC ( #1038178=note: print w/ replies, xml ) Need Help??


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Actually... I downvote almost nothing, and never will.   And I have not the time to carry a grudge, much less a vendetta, thank you much.   Yet, I encourage all of you not to suppose, either that I seek “self-aggrandizement,” or that I raise this issue (yet again ...) merely to “counter negative-XP.”   Believe it or not, I have a Rhett Butler attitude about that.

If I raise a question, I mean it quite seriously.   Even though you might see me post here frequently, the vast majority of my use of this site is Super Search.   I am not a god and therefore have (and seek) no access to the relevant statistics, but I do suspect that most non-newbie uses of this site are exactly the same.   Therefore, it is all about the quality of the content, which is obvious-enough, but also about the information quality of . . . the content-peer-rating system!   (Affectionately known as, “XP.”)

Think outside the box.   To status-conscious frequenters, ratings are a way to rise to the Papacy.   But, to those who search, they are a way to sift the wheat from the chaff.

When I very-badly need to know something, I search here.   Don’t go anywhere else WRT Perl.   When I perform a search on any topic, I don’t merely want to see what “hits” on this-or-that keyword.   (Google alone tells me that much... and Google knows nothing-at-all about Perl or anything else that it presumes to index.)   No, I want to know what posts the peers on this site considered, at that time, to be the “best ones.”   Those are the ones that, by far, are most likely to quickly give me the answers that I seek.   However, I am somewhat stymied in this, because I can only see the sum of the votes.   A really-good but unpopular-to-some post could attract 5 upvotes and 5 downvotes and wind up ... zero.   “Off my radar,” even though the upvotes are really what I want to zero-in on as an indicator of the thread’s actual information-value to me.

Need other examples?   They’re very easy to find.   On Facebook, you can “like” something, but you can’t snub it.   But, why?   I suggest that the answer just might boil down to this:

  • “If you like it,” then maybe the right thing for me to do, from a less-informed position of knowledge, is to trust your judgment.
  • “If you don’t like it,” strangely, that’s just not the same thing.


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Re^3: (Toward a better PerlMonks) Who do we serve, and why, and how can we do it better?
by Athanasius (Prior) on Jun 11, 2013 at 02:54 UTC
    No, I want to know what posts the peers on this site considered, at that time, to be the “best ones.” ... However, I am somewhat stymied in this, because I can only see the sum of the votes.

    Actually, you can’t see a node’s reputation until you’ve voted on the node yourself. So, if you’re evaluating nodes by reputation — and therefore voting on the major nodes in each thread of interest — you’ll have to invest a lot of votes!

    But, once you have voted on a node, you can see its reputation spread by ticking the “Show reputation spread” box in the “Miscellaneous” section of your User Settings. That will show how many downvotes were included in the sum. You can then discount the downvotes and rank the nodes by their positive votes. See Display of Node Reputation.

    Hope that helps,

    Athanasius <°(((><contra mundum Iustus alius egestas vitae, eros Piratica,

      Wow, I've been lurking here for over a decade and didn't know about the Node Reputation flag until now. Learn something new (even when your not trying) every day. Thanks.

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