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Re: Why is PerlMonks.org still so ugly and outdated on presentation?

by sundialsvc4 (Abbot)
on Aug 27, 2013 at 15:55 UTC ( #1051160=note: print w/ replies, xml ) Need Help??


in reply to Why is PerlMonks.org still so ugly and outdated on presentation?

Second your thoughts about “eye-candy land.”   Consider GMail, for instance.   Or, “I don’t want Chat to go away.”   Not one of Google’s millions of customers is given any say in the matter; or, any warning; or, any recourse.

PM is, to me, above-all an information resource.   It has quirks and lacks things that I sorely wish that it had, but it runs reasonably fast and it gets me the answers that I need to know, quickly.   For any browser that I could think to throw at it.   So, I would suggest that we all should proceed with caution.   I don’t give a damm if an oracle has a wart on his nose and buck teeth if he gets me the information I need to know and gets it to me now.   Which this site does do.   And if it continues to attract the quality of participants (present company not included) that it does now do.   (Which also it does because there is one “go-to site for Perl,” not several competing ones, and this one is “it.”)

Cosmetic improvements are not terribly important to me, especially to the extent that they might cause disruption of access to the information resource and/or “no real improvement” to that information service.   I prioritize search-tools (and now-missing IMHO ratings tools) highly; cosmetics very low; strictly in terms of “what’s in it for m-e yo moi.”


Comment on Re: Why is PerlMonks.org still so ugly and outdated on presentation?
Re^2: Why is PerlMonks.org still so ugly and outdated on presentation?
by Anonymous Monk on Aug 27, 2013 at 17:49 UTC
    Clearly cosmetic improvements are not terribly important to you! Your posts look like an explosion in a punctuation factory! Can you at least try to get through a paragraph without sprinkling in scare quotes?

      ... and can you please bother to log in?   Heh.

      Cosmetic improvements, of course, would be nice ... bring ’em on.   Lord knows that this site could use ’em.   I have also offered many specific suggestions for ways that the site could (IMHO) be made even more useful to me (in terms of searching through decades-old posts) ... none of which suggestions happen to be “cosmetic.”

      IMHO, this really comes down to the essential web-site question:   Why are you here?”   For me, and I daresay for a great many other people, that answer is:   because here I can ask almost any question at all about Perl, and in a matter of minutes/hours get a great answer from someone who actually knows Perl.

      But wait ... there’s more ...

      The other answer is:   because, no matter what it is that is confounding you right now, the odds are very excellent that someone else has beaten his/her head against the very same rock, and talked about it such that you can now avoid repeating the same snafu.   Priceless.™   And you can find it all right here.

      I am not apologizing for the site’s present it-sucks visual appearance, nor am I arguing that it should not change, when I say that I can easily tolerate its present suckiness in my daily pursuit for what it can do for me.

      Clients pay me to pull rabbits out of my hat.   They do not care where those rabbits came from.

        I'll log in when you stop typing like a ransom note. Please just stop. It's so difficult to read.

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