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Who gave (and continues to give) Tye McQueen his authority for his autocratic domination of PerlMonks?

by BrowserUk (Pope)
on Sep 02, 2013 at 13:34 UTC ( #1051937=monkdiscuss: print w/ replies, xml ) Need Help??

PerlMonks is not a democracy. That I get; understand and even endorse. But ...

Autocracy, without wide -- if not universal -- acceptance of divine right; invites question, challenge, and even rebellion.

From whom does Tye inherit his authority?

Where are: vroom, nate, kurt, Petruchio, theonetwo, yitzchak, seveas?

Do they -- knowingly -- (continue) to cede authority to Tye  or did he inherit his "authority" purely as an accident of those above named (former?) Gods, by dint of longevity alone?

And if so, should we -- collectively, the constant, responsive, backbone of PerlMonks - continue to accept his caprice over how, and why, and what, and when, happens and is possible, and should be acceptable, here at the Monastery?

Please Vote!

Copy, amend to taste and and paste: Yes: [ ]; No: [ ]; Don't know: [ ]; Don't care: [ ]?


With the rise and rise of 'Social' network sites: 'Computers are making people easier to use everyday'
Examine what is said, not who speaks -- Silence betokens consent -- Love the truth but pardon error.
"Science is about questioning the status quo. Questioning authority".
In the absence of evidence, opinion is indistinguishable from prejudice.

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Re: Who gave (and continues to give) Tye McQueen his authority for his autocratic domination of PerlMonks?
by daxim (Chaplain) on Sep 02, 2013 at 14:17 UTC
    What's the caprice and autocracy? Details of your charge plox, or it didn't happen.

      And whaddaya know.

      After 10+ years of using the same login;m my userid suddenly no longer works.

      You wanted capreice; you got it.

      No doubt that this id will disappear forthwith; but till then, this is BrowserUk under enforcved alias. (Ps. I *never* give up!)

        Recently, I had an issue with my login no longer working. The reason turned out to be that the password had been truncated to 8 characters in the database (so the password I originally chose no longer worked).

        I don't know whether your problem is the same, but perhaps you can try logging in again using the first 8 characters of your original password.

Re: Who gave (and continues to give) Tye McQueen his authority for his autocratic domination of PerlMonks?
by thomas895 (Hermit) on Sep 02, 2013 at 19:33 UTC

    I'm confused as to what's happening here. But could it be because of the perlmonks.(org|com|net) vs www.perlmonks.(org|com|net) thing?

    ~Thomas~ 
    "Excuse me for butting in, but I'm interrupt-driven..."

      No. After 10+ years, I am totally indifferent to the survival og the human race. Until, you put it into terms that they --collectively - respect.

Re: Who gave (and continues to give) Tye McQueen his authority for his autocratic domination of PerlMonks?
by QuarterToWhen (Novice) on Sep 03, 2013 at 04:40 UTC

    Well, it's right there in his name. McQueen. Clearly it's her destiny to rule.

Re: Who gave (and continues to give) Tye McQueen his authority for his autocratic domination of PerlMonks?
by Argel (Prior) on Sep 04, 2013 at 01:07 UTC
    Spoken with your usual lack of tack, and missing the mark to boot. I think the question to ask, suggestion to make is that, given the general lack of oversight by TPF, the number of semi-active to barely active gods, and past abuses of position (the cabal acting as troll enablers a couple years back is a good example), isn't it time for some new gods? Or maybe even a democratically elected governing body (or at least an oversight committee)? I'm not sure how well those would go over, or even work for that matter, but at least they are something we could have an interesting discussion about.

    As you no doubt noticed, raising personal grievances does not get you very far. Partly because of perceived slights, ingrained biases due to long held grudges, etc. Consider, for example, your view of tye juxtaposed with sundialsvc4's view of you.

    And what of the result? Whether your account was hacked, a god disabled it, or the fallout from some random event billions of years ago finally hit earth, causing some anomaly to occur, you have weakened your position. And if people believe a god temporarily banned your account you have significantly weakened your position, because who will risk an even lengthier ban by joining your crusade?

    I do not know what actually happened, but dang, what an incredibly damaging, self inflicted first salvo!

    Elda Taluta; Sarks Sark; Ark Arks
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      And if people believe a god temporarily banned your account you have significantly weakened your position, because who will risk an even lengthier ban by joining your crusade?

      Really. I think whomever saw fit to -- silently, unilaterally, and with neither warning nor announcement -- ban my account, made my point for me better than I ever could have hoped for.

      Will anything come of it? That's not up to me, I did my part. It would require collective action to change things, and there seems to be apathy for that.

      So I'll accept the conclusion of democratic apathy, shut-the-f***-up, and live with the status quo.


      With the rise and rise of 'Social' network sites: 'Computers are making people easier to use everyday'
      Examine what is said, not who speaks -- Silence betokens consent -- Love the truth but pardon error.
      "Science is about questioning the status quo. Questioning authority".
      In the absence of evidence, opinion is indistinguishable from prejudice.
Re: Who gave (and continues to give) Tye McQueen his authority for his autocratic domination of PerlMonks?
by ig (Vicar) on Sep 04, 2013 at 04:29 UTC

    I have been here only a few years but over that time both you and Tye have been very helpful to me and others.

    You said 'please vote' and considering the extent of your contribution here I am inclined to but I find the negativity and invective in your posts in this thread off putting. Clearly you are frustrated, but I don't know why. Perhaps I should know more or better or make the effort to find the evidence but... maybe I am lazy to a fault.

    I don't contribute nearly as much here as you do and my limited experience might make me unfit to judge, but I have had no experience with Tye that causes me the frustration or disrespect that your post suggests.

    I am pleased that Perl Monks is here. I don't know much about the contributions other than the posts themselves. I assume considerable time and resources have been given by many. I don't think it is my place or proper for me to expect or demand change to what is so generously provided.

    I care. I don't know. I have nothing against Tye and respect and appreciate his contributions here, as I do yours. Everyone has their faults. Sometimes one finds them offensive. Despite whatever it is that has offended you to motivate this post, I hope you will continue to contribute as you have done - predominantly politely and constructively.

      Perhaps I should know more or better or make the effort to find the evidence but... maybe I am lazy to a fault.

      And that appears to be the primary lesson from my shaking the box.

      This place could be better, and that would be nice, but if it requires effort ... ooh. There's a new kitty video trending on twitface.

      Don't be offended by that, it's neither a personal nor actual accusation of anything. Just an exaggerated statement of what appears to be.

      Combine that with the very real fear that saying anything that might offend the management could cause the instance, permanent, and unappealable revocation of one's privilege to be here; and it is easy to see that there is neither the appetite nor realistic possibility for change.


      With the rise and rise of 'Social' network sites: 'Computers are making people easier to use everyday'
      Examine what is said, not who speaks -- Silence betokens consent -- Love the truth but pardon error.
      "Science is about questioning the status quo. Questioning authority".
      In the absence of evidence, opinion is indistinguishable from prejudice.

        In short, those are interesting thoughts, quite right, it seems to me, but I still don't know, don't have authority or influence to make a difference and am not enough motivated to try (my fault, not yours).

        I think apathy is the greater impediment to change but there is always the possibility of it and appeal to all concerned will be most effective, in the long run, at least for those of us who do not have authority. This, combined with tolerance and forgiveness.

Re: Who gave (and continues to give) Tye McQueen his authority for his autocratic domination of PerlMonks? (gods/who)
by Anonymous Monk on Sep 04, 2013 at 10:04 UTC
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by NodeReaper (Curate) on Sep 04, 2013 at 11:02 UTC

      The continued existence of that account is proof positive that there's something rotten in Denmark.

      Consider this your last meal.

        Really?

        I'm sorry ... experiencing your own arrogant attitudes must be somehow painful...

Re: Who gave (and continues to give) Tye McQueen his authority for his autocratic domination of PerlMonks?
by je44ery (Hermit) on Sep 09, 2013 at 09:29 UTC

    ...should we...continue to accept his {Tye's} caprice over...the Monastery?

    Yes: {X}; No: { }; Don't know: { }; Don't care: { }

    My advice to you is to give up, move on, and put in effort elsewhere. If you have not done so already, I suggest that you get a Stack Exchange account and check out their Stack Overflow, Programmers, and Computer Science sites. I believe you will be happier there.

    My experience causes me to hypothesize that it is rare for organizational entities with a significant history to have successful directed transformations. Instead, much more often, evolutionary leaps happen when a new thing comes along and renders the prior thing obsolete. Thus, I predict that whatever complaints you have about this place now, you will continue to have them for the next decade if you remain.

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