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Re^6: Capturing regex from map

by BrowserUk (Pope)
on Sep 15, 2013 at 21:13 UTC ( #1054196=note: print w/ replies, xml ) Need Help??


in reply to Re^5: Capturing regex from map
in thread Capturing regex from map

OP had only

Indeed. Equally, the OP didn't use a void context and a capture variable per Re: Capturing regex from map, but that didn't stop you posting a polemic troll falsely equating the two (despite that you'd already pointed out they were not the same) for no reason other than to have a personal dig.

The difference between your post and mine, is that mine is intended to point out that the construct -- a regex within the list context of a map assigning to an array -- is very powerful, even beyond the simple use the OP put it to. And that if you take the time to understand why the OPs example works, then the other more powerful uses -- such as the one I demonstrated -- are equally easy to understand and therefore utilise.

FWIW:

Not very much. Actually, a negative amount.

All you did was put the regex into a localised list context by constructing a scoped array; and then convert that array to the list that would have been constructed had you left things alone. That's pointless make-work.

Anyone who understands that assigning a regex to an array assigns the captures; is equally capable of understanding that the same regex in the list context of a map statement assigned to an array will do the exact same thing.

You understand it. But you somehow think that other people won't. That you have to clarify the obvious for them by some utterly pointless make-work. You are advocating that 'other people' should dumb down their code, because some other 'other people' might not understand it like you do.

Suggestion: do not seek to intellectually diminish those 'other people'; seek to educate them.

If you can understand; and I can understand it; it is a fair bet that with just a little exposure; they will understand it too. It's neither that complicated, nor undocumented.


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Comment on Re^6: Capturing regex from map
Re^7: Capturing regex from map
by Anonymous Monk on Sep 16, 2013 at 01:17 UTC

    Anyone who understands that assigning a regex to an array assigns the captures; is equally capable of understanding that the same regex in the list context of a map statement assigned to an array will do the exact same thing.

    Understanding either or both does not make the OP's code a shining beacon of clarity, IMO.

      Understanding either or both does not make the OP's code a shining beacon of clarity,

      If you understand it, how can it possibly be unclear?

      This is exactly the same ridiculous argument as is proffered here so often.

      Yes. Of course, *I* understand it, but other people might not, so therefore, it is not "a beacon of clarity".

      And if you do not understand it; just say that. Then we can point you to the documentation; and perhaps offer further examples, or a break down of why and how it works, to help you reach the understanding you are lacking.

      Do not advocate the dumbing down of other peoples code, simply because you don't understand it; or you fear that others might not.

      The key to understanding is not pretending the (in this case, hardly) complicated stuff doesn't exist; it is education.

      Don't seek to cover it up, or hide in in a box labeled "wizards only"; explain it.


      With the rise and rise of 'Social' network sites: 'Computers are making people easier to use everyday'
      Examine what is said, not who speaks -- Silence betokens consent -- Love the truth but pardon error.
      "Science is about questioning the status quo. Questioning authority".
      In the absence of evidence, opinion is indistinguishable from prejudice.
        I'm saying that it can, for the OP's case, be trivially made easier to understand. It did take me a few minutes' head-scratching to see what it did, and it surprised me that the community's response about its clarity was positive.

        In my case, I don't use the list-returning properties of regexps often, nor do I expect map to subtract from or add to the amount of elements in the array. If I need to kill elements, I generally leave a hint such as () inside the map block.

        I do not view this behaviour as dumbing down code at all, but just saving people's heads from excess scratching, that they are able to instantly see what that line does. The Perl community does have a reputation of abstruse write-only code, you know, and I think this line would be a perfect example of excess terseness the community is infamous for. (For the record, I hate Java for its dumb verbosity. Middle grounds exist, too.)

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