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Re^2: Perl 5 Optimizing Compiler, Part 10: Kickstarter & Performance Benchmarks

by Will_the_Chill (Pilgrim)
on Nov 29, 2013 at 00:30 UTC ( #1064878=note: print w/ replies, xml ) Need Help??


in reply to Re: Perl 5 Optimizing Compiler, Part 10: Kickstarter & Performance Benchmarks
in thread Perl 5 Optimizing Compiler, Part 10: Kickstarter & Performance Benchmarks

Hi vkon,

Great questions! You are correct, there is an issue with Perl 6 blocking progress and P5P Pumpkings also blocking progress. Saint Larry says we can have no Perl 7 until Perl 6 is finished, which may be never!

Perl 11 is a philosophy, specifically the idea that we can re-unify Perl 5 and Perl 6 if we are able to make Perl pluggable at the 3 main levels of grammar/parser, compiler/bytecode, and VM/interpreter/runtime. Perl 11 is not an actual software product itself, and Perl 11 is not an actual version of Perl. (Yet.) There are multiple projects that fall under the Perl 11 umbrella, many of which are listed on the Perl 11 website. I'm currently working on a more exhaustive comparison table for ALL Perl projects, and I'm already up to 37 of them!

P2 is Reini Urban's software project to build a new JIT runtime for both Perl 5 and Perl 6 using the pre-existing Potion VM. The "2" in "P2" comes from adding together the two "1" digits in "Perl 11". :-)

RPerl is my software project to build a Perl-to-C optimizing compiler for low-magic Perl 5 code. RPerl is very different than P2, in that RPerl is focused on high-speed and low-magic Perl 5 only. Also, RPerl uses the existing Perl 5 code, and P2 is totally new and different than the existing Perl 5.

There are also several other Perl 11 projects, you may wish to read more about them at the Perl 11 website.

Did I answer your questions? Will you please consider making a generous pledge to support RPerl development?

Thanks!

Perling,
~ Will


Comment on Re^2: Perl 5 Optimizing Compiler, Part 10: Kickstarter & Performance Benchmarks
Re^3: Perl 5 Optimizing Compiler, Part 10: Kickstarter & Performance Benchmarks
by vkon (Deacon) on Nov 29, 2013 at 17:34 UTC
    yes, that answers my questions, thanks,
    nice answer, indeed
    ... yet I have another Q, if I may

    This "frequently asked questions" section - what, people continuously asked you in mailing list or whatever else with namely these questions, so you've grouped them and placed in a public place?
    How often these Qs are indeed asked??

      I've talked to many, many people about RPerl over the last year. I've been asked all of the FAQ questions multiple times.

      I'm sorry if that doesn't answer your question, I'm a little confused by what you were asking me?
Re^3: Perl 5 Optimizing Compiler, Part 10: Kickstarter & Performance Benchmarks
by ysth (Canon) on Dec 02, 2013 at 00:51 UTC
    I'm currently working on a more exhaustive comparison table for ALL Perl projects, and I'm already up to 37 of them!

    If you don't already have it, don't leave out Topaz, which, while long dead, was helpful to chip in working on Parrot.

    --
    A math joke: r = | |csc(θ)|+|sec(θ)| |-| |csc(θ)|-|sec(θ)| |
      Make that 38, thanks ysth! :-)

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