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Re^4: A Melancholy Monkday

by Anonymous Monk
on Jan 20, 2014 at 08:09 UTC ( #1071281=note: print w/replies, xml ) Need Help??

in reply to Re^3: A Melancholy Monkday
in thread A Melancholy Monkday

I disagree that Rakudo is superior to Perl 5. It depends on the definition you use. But I would say talking in terms of usefulness, Perl 5 is definitely a far stable alternative, with documentation, and CPAN support. Rakudo is slow, feature incomplete, has no documentation and standard libraries(let alone CPAN support)

>>There is still much work to do...but I'm still hopeful.

This almost smells like RMS defending the GNU Hurd project. Which when applied to the Perl 6 project is really scary.

>>Telling volunteers what to do is never going to work. That said, you can be assured that I spend about 98% of my Perl 6 time actually improving stuff

One can argue what that stuff is, For example was MoarVM even necessary? All that effort could have rather been spent on making Rakudo feature complete. Rakudo has seen so many rewrites, so many sub projects given the history one can almost say there won't any thing worthwhile may be even 5-6 years from now.

My worst fear is, Rakudo branching out to more backends in the near future. Stalling all feature completion efforts and instead having several other bug ridden ports for other backends

>>2% responding to troll.

Of course these days, any criticism of the Perl 6 project is considered trolling.

and lastly ...

You mentioned in your previous comment

And all efforts depend on admitting that there's something wrong in the first place.

I think you should read what you wrote a couple of times, seriously and ponder how much that applies to Perl 6

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Re^5: A Melancholy Monkday
by moritz (Cardinal) on Jan 20, 2014 at 09:19 UTC
      You're not the same moritz who wrote "At individual levels Perl 6 and its current main implementation, Rakudo, are actually superior to Perl 5"?

      O-kay. Putting words in your mouth. #lolperl6

        Let me reconstruct the quote you doctored:
        Nothing from the Perl 6 project can, at the moment, be considered a worthy replacement for Perl 5 at every level. At individual levels (for example expressiveness, or concurrency (on the JVM backend at least)), Perl 6 and its current main implementation, Rakudo, are actually superior to Perl 5. There is still much work to do (much more than anybody imagined when the Perl 6 efforted started), but I'm still hopeful.
        Just like in Perl, context in English is quite important.

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