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Weekly changes in and around Perl 6

by raiph (Hermit)
on Feb 17, 2014 at 21:02 UTC ( #1075219=perlnews: print w/ replies, xml ) Need Help??

This post is about the immature Perl 6, not the rock solid Perl 5

timotimo has begun publishing a Weekly changes in and around Perl 6 report; the current one (week 7) is mostly about a bunch of MoarVM improvements that landed in the last week, some stuff that's coming up, and ways to get involved.

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Re: Weekly changes in and around Perl 6
by Your Mother (Canon) on Feb 17, 2014 at 21:27 UTC

    HOW DARE YOU CLAIM THAT PERL6 IS PRODUCTION READY!?!?! YOU COULD AT LEAST MAKE SURE EVERYONE KNOWS YOU'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT PERL5 (THE ONLY REAL PERL!!!!)!!!!! DON'T YOU KNOW THAT MOAR IS PROOF THAT IT'S ALL OVER!!?!?! GAME OVER, MAN! GAME OVER!!!!!

    Am I doing it right?

      Not bad, but you forgot the ad hominem attack.
      Wowowow! You helped me realize that all of my criticisms of perl-6 were trolling behavior cos my parents never loved me as a child. You have brought enlightenment to me. I am going to deploy a program written in the production-ready Rakudo Star this afternoon after my tears of joy dry.

      Or not, cos it's still the IT equivalent of Intelligent Design where if people only BELIEVED hard enough then it would work out.

        Ah, so there was an ad hominem in my reply. Im sure your parents loved you just fine. An older brother might have helped though.

        Perl6 news is relevant to the site, its interesting to many of us and ignorable by the rest, and quitting or remaining silent just because anonymous gainsayers pile-on would be silly. I personally don't care if perl6 is delivered/donefrankly, it intimidates me as its designed for hackers who have harder CS/math skills than I doso its not a matter of belief but simple courtesy. The relentless and redundant attacks on the most trivial updates is just stupid and I thought I'd proactively shut one of these threads down for once. Backfire away if compelled.

        I raise your Intelligent Design analogy by labeling you the hacker equivalent of a slut shamer. How many compilers one writes or how many times one starts over on a spec isnt a good reason to judge something bad.

      Am I doing it right?

      Hm. Depends. Are you hoping to capture the essence of the knee-jerks; or that of the logisticians?

      Perl6 news will be relevant when:

      • It can solve Knuth's Algorithm X as fast, or faster, than Perl5. And ...
      • grep a text file, filtering a subset specified by a non-trivial regex, as fast or faster than Perl 5. And ...
      • Find the median of an unsorted array of 1e6 numerical values as fast or faster then Perl5.

      Until then, it is an also-ran.


      With the rise and rise of 'Social' network sites: 'Computers are making people easier to use everyday'
      Examine what is said, not who speaks -- Silence betokens consent -- Love the truth but pardon error.
      "Science is about questioning the status quo. Questioning authority".
      In the absence of evidence, opinion is indistinguishable from prejudice.

        Ill preface by saying again, though Id like to see it happen, I have no investment in perl6; Im not hurt if it never appears in a form most of us would agree is good to go. But! By your definition, various versions of perl5 were never news and by implication should never have been posted here since some releases have had slowdowns over predecessors.

        "Until then, it is an also-ran."

        I don't know. Python is typically slower than Perl for these sorts of tasks, but it's not an also-ran.

        If Perl 6 can perform these tasks even 10% to 20% slower than Perl 5, it could still form a more attractive proposition if it leads to clearer and more maintainable code.

        use Moops; class Cow :rw { has name => (default => 'Ermintrude') }; say Cow->new->name

      Am I doing it right?

      Uh oh, mother found the "oregano" stash

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