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CPAN down again... (search.cpan.org)

by cLive ;-) (Parson)
on Jul 14, 2014 at 12:29 UTC ( #1093538=perlmeditation: print w/ replies, xml ) Need Help??

I don't know what the full back story is behind this, but I've noticed that CPAN is going down a lot lately.

As the first port of call for anyone searching Perl documentation, I think this reflects really badly on the community - I mean, if I wasn't sold on Perl, started looking into it and hit errors on the language's main (edit: "main module documentation") web site, I'd be thinking something along the lines of, "If they can't keep up a web site, how can we rely on Perl as a technology?".

Is there no way that maybe the error pages could be updated if the server situation is not easily fixable? Surely it would be better to display more than just "504 Gateway Time-out" ??? Maybe something more descriptive, in a formatted HTML page that links to other Perl resources (Perlmonks, perl.com. perldocs.net etc).

It a little embarrassing when I'm excitedly discussing a cool aspect of Perl and then try to send that person the CPAN page, only to hit an error message. What can be done to fix this?

(edited title for clarity)

Comment on CPAN down again... (search.cpan.org)
Re: CPAN down again...
by marto (Bishop) on Jul 14, 2014 at 12:38 UTC

      Who do I raise the issue with?

      CPAN is the main Perl site for anything not in core. Pretty much every Perl module you search on has search.cpan.org as one of the top three search results. eg MIME::Lite, Moose (second result), Plack (second result). In none of those does www.perl.org appear as a resource, with only perl.org appearing as a whitepaper on Plack.

        The fact that cpan module documentation can be found on cpan is hardly surprising, but the following statements aren't accurate for cpan.org:

        "first port of call for anyone searching Perl documentation"

        "hit errors on the language's main web site"

        My earlier post explains the differences.

        "Who do I raise the issue with?"

        The contact details are on the noc page. An issue tracker for some things an email address for everything else.

Re: CPAN down again...
by tobyink (Abbot) on Jul 14, 2014 at 13:01 UTC

    As per marto's reply, the CPAN is not down. The CPAN is an archive mirrored across almost 500 servers in over 60 countries. It's hard to imagine anything short of the zombie apocalypse taking the CPAN down.

    search.cpan.org is down though. search.cpan.org is a sites that provide a nice, searchable interface listing CPAN distributions and showing their documentation. Although it is a popular gateway to the CPAN, it is not the only one.

    We also have metacpan.org, which is gaining ground in terms of popularity.

    (There was also kobesearch once upon a time, but its maintainer sadly passed away, and the site is no more. There is periodic talk of resurrecting the site.)

      search.cpan.org is a sites that provide a nice, searchable interface listing CPAN distributions and showing their documentation. Although it is a popular gateway to the CPAN, it is not the only one.

      If you're using Google, it's pretty much the only one that you'll hit. And, if you aren't familiar with Perl and don't know about the alternatives, then it will be the documentation you hit. I don't think I've ever seen metacpan in a Google search result for a module.

        With the amount of personalisation done, it's hard to compare Google searches. The results I get are not likely to be the same as the ones you get. But searching for "kavorka perl" I get the following:

        1. http://blogs.perl.org/users/toby_inkster/2013/11/introducing-kavorka.html
        2. http://search.cpan.org/perldoc?Kavorka
        3. https://metacpan.org/release/Kavorka
        4. https://github.com/tobyink/p5-kavorka
        5. https://github.com/lukec/stripe-perl/issues/28 (hmmm... looks interesting... I think I'll reply to this issue)

        So metacpan is certainly in there, even if it's not (yet) rating as highly as search.cpan.org. If the latter is constantly down when Googlebot visits though, expect this to change over time!

Re: CPAN down again... (search.cpan.org)
by Anonymous Monk on Jul 14, 2014 at 18:59 UTC
Re^3: Nobody Expects the Agile Imposition (Part VII): Metrics
by bulrush (Beadle) on Jul 15, 2014 at 11:07 UTC
    Anywhoo, OP, I'm 99% sure this was a planned outage for CPAN. I saw some notice somewhere but I couldn't find it again.
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