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Cleaning up Categorized Questions and Answers

by vroom (His Eminence)
on May 11, 2000 at 00:51 UTC ( [id://11053]=monkdiscuss: print w/replies, xml ) Need Help??

Categorized Questions and Answers is supposed to be our own ever-growing equivalent of perlfaq. We'd like to keep the quality, and usability at close to the same level. In order to do that we need to do several things:
  • Get rid of wrong answers
  • Get rid of thank yous/clarifications which appear as answers
  • Fix/Get rid of titles like Help me ASAP... the title alone should clue a user into whether or not they want to check out a question
  • Miscategorized Questions
I'd like to see what your ideas are for improving this... I'm thinking maybe a quest to fix this up might be a good idea. Share your thoughts/ideas below.

vroom | Tim Vroom | vroom@cs.hope.edu
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RE: Cleaning up Categorized Questions and Answers
by chromatic (Archbishop) on May 11, 2000 at 01:06 UTC
    A quest is a good idea. Here's what I think:
    • Set up a place where we can suggest moving miscategorized nodes. There oughtn't be an XP bonus for posting there.
    • Let registered posters each volunteer to take one or two questions. They'll arrange the answers into one comprehensive document, weed out the cruft, and polish things. Pending approval from a couple of other monks, replace the whole thing with the new writeup.
    • Make Categorized Q&A read-only by normal monks. That'll prevent miscategorization in the future. I see these as mini-tutorials.
    • Post a link to the Q&A section near the place where you can post a new SoPW question -- "Want a fast response? Did you check the perlfaq? How about Categorized Q&A?"
RE: Cleaning up Categorized Questions and Answers
by btrott (Parson) on May 11, 2000 at 01:47 UTC
    I think a quest would be a good start, probably, to clean up the existing stuff. But I think that, without some changes sort of like chromatic suggested, it'll soon revert to its current state: which is kind of a mess.

    The purpose of Categorized Q&A right now is somewhat unclear. I think that you (vroom) are quite clear on what you want it to be--a localized FAQ that monks can add to--but I don't think that's very clear to new posters. To them, it probably seems like there are basically two areas where they can ask questions: SOPW and Q&A. And that's confusing.

    So I'd second chromatic's suggestion to make Q&A read-only. If you want it to be an FAQ area, we can't have people dropping non-FAQ's in there. My suggestion is this:

    • Make the Q&A area read-only, per chromatic's suggestion.
    • Let monks with a certain XP level (> 4 or 5?) maintain/moderate the area.
    • Since new posts won't be coming it to the Q&A section, these maintainers will need to actively add the FAQs to the Q&A section. They'll also need to add answers, which can (should, if possible?) be drawn from and crosslinked-to writeups around the site.
    What do you think? This seems like it would provide a solid FAQ area with good answers and still make good use of the rest of the writeups around the site.
      Combining the two of the things mentioned, it seems like it might be a good idea to have Q&A read-only a certain levels. If the content is "e;the best of"e; 'Seekers of Perl Wisdom' everyone will still be able to contribute answers. It would be nice if the answers could be attributed to the original author in some way.

      Kudra, basically just being in agreement.

RE: Cleaning up Categorized Questions and Answers
by ChuckularOne (Prior) on May 11, 2000 at 16:33 UTC
    To avoid addendums and clarifications posted as answers, (Yes I'm guiltly) if the question asker were able to update (or at least add text too (maybe force it to be a different color?)) a question. It would avoid the Clarification Answers and additional information posts.

    Your Humble Servant,
    -Chuck

    Abuser of parenthesis
      To avoid addendums and clarifications posted as answers, (Yes I'm guiltly) if the question asker were able to update (or at least add text too (maybe force it to be a different color?)) a question.

      I was thinking about this topic (being able to edit questions etc.) and I think we possibly can't edit questions because they are moderated. If a question gets posted to the front page and is then edited, it could well include something offensive.

      I would like to see these "top level" node (i.e. anything that starts a new discussion thread) being editable, perhaps it could be made a feature of higher level monks. If you need a certain number of XPs to be able to edit your own "top level" posts, then a user could abuse it at most once before having the privlidge revoked.

      So, vroom is it because they get moderated?

        I guess the moderation thing makes sense. The intent with the possibility of only addending, and forcing that to be a different color, was to avoid the invalidation of answers.
        As for the offensivness thing. I guess making it available to higher level users would probably eliminate most of that. If you took a 300 XP hit for being obscene, scoundrels might think twice about it.
        Then, of course you run into the whole censorship this. But I feel, if it doesn't pass the moderation standards, it should get yanked.

        Just my opinion.
        -Chuck
        Well one of the reasons we decided to do it that way is because users could post a question... change it and then invalidate some of the advice already given. The moderation thing is a valid point too... although I would hope most of are grown up enough to avoid such childish nonsense.

        vroom | Tim Vroom | vroom@cs.hope.edu
RE: Cleaning up Categorized Questions and Answers
by Anonymous Monk on May 11, 2000 at 03:25 UTC
    I think the Seekers of Perl Wisdom page should be a gateway to the Categorized Q&A. Once a question had gone through the Seekers of Perl Wisdom a monk with sufficient XP could turn the thread into a Q & A entry. I see Seekers of Perl Wisdom as as the data-entry/open forum with the Categorized Q&A being a moderated repository of questions that have gone through the Seekers of Perl Wisdom. Having 2 separate but very similar forums to post questions is confusing. Maybe also put a "Category" option on new Seekers of Perl Wisdom submissions that would correlate to the categories in the Q&A and allow for easier creation of Q&A entries from Seekers questions.
      I would second this idea - but perhaps there should be a method by which we can recommend a question for the Q&A, to be voted on with normal everyday votes. This will allow the low-level monks ( like yours truly ) to have some input.

      Mik

        The other possible solutions that we could do is to have a SOPW question "move" into CQA once it had gained enough positive votes.

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