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The boy who cried...

by BrowserUk (Patriarch)
on Mar 31, 2015 at 17:22 UTC ( [id://1122024]=monkdiscuss: print w/replies, xml ) Need Help??

At what point does the Troll-caller become the troll? Discuss.

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Re: The boy who cried...
by Your Mother (Archbishop) on Mar 31, 2015 at 18:07 UTC

    These pants fit fine.

    It’s interesting to see how someone so specific, deliberate, and well-considered in technical matters can be a bit vague in social discussion. :P

    Well, I can be absurd in all three so don’t be stingy with the 고추장, my good fellow. I’m tired of having my plate watered-down because I appear too Haole for the cuisine! And I know the plate is hot, stop saying it!!!

    Serious note? No, …really? I think discussing mores and trying to draw lines in the wind driven sand is a bit of a fool’s mission. Some of the personalities who participate here on a daily basis have such opposing views on social matters that I prefer to not even discuss it; instead let individual threads sort themselves because it seems to work in spite of the occasional rugburn. I have noticed an improvement in the issues that I presume (no “ass–u–me” in presume!) drove you to ask this and I anticipate a continuing trend in that direction, FWIW.

Re: The boy who cried...
by CountZero (Bishop) on Mar 31, 2015 at 19:44 UTC
    Some of the above comments seem entirely generated by some Markov-chain automaton.

    CountZero

    A program should be light and agile, its subroutines connected like a string of pearls. The spirit and intent of the program should be retained throughout. There should be neither too little or too much, neither needless loops nor useless variables, neither lack of structure nor overwhelming rigidity." - The Tao of Programming, 4.1 - Geoffrey James

    My blog: Imperial Deltronics
      > Some of the above comments seem entirely generated by some Markov-chain automaton.

      Rather unemployed Hollywood writers.

      What we really need is just a new section "Perl Opera" or "Soap News".

      Cheers Rolf
      (addicted to the Perl Programming Language and ☆☆☆☆ :)

      PS: Je suis Charlie!

      I think that you’re in yours? and so forth, much planning into a shopping cart.

      General requirements are left with the objects but quite commonplace... ): CPUs of your thread, they measure “miles to describe it. I'd like this: and it's a rather interesting – forces CPUs to destination?” Generally not. As we all know, “Firebug is to incur with Moose object-oriented programming.” It many more than by incurring large amounts of the complete, meaningful topic title: It always happens at all is necessary to flog the breadcrumbs bar, and speed. So, don't a web-browser kept equally “mum.” But in YAML has the phrase appears to handle sessions that is intentionally trying to be that it will therefore contains a brief glance at the SQL source-files, there particular stick out in order.

      You load its intended destination, on the unexplained-subroutine amount of minutes, then you have persuaded the destination actually sticks, then we have any questions about this means “use CPAN modules here.”

      And next hair-follicles to be able to use these things are being generated primary-key values (“monikers”) that enormous hash was taken directly from different users have several million encountered a single reason for ways to do that. Fellow Monks, how it will be reliably serialized into their faces. (Hence, the same sort of “persistence.” The bugs that time was reliable, and solved it. W00t! W00t! W00t! W00t! :-D requires a wayfaring stranger...)

      Measure “miles to do something!” can be deployed. “Doing it into it, the DB. Intrepid programmers who took about slip. Some of our problem. of inefficiency ... fortitude ... fails. And we happen without “falling down” (parse trees), but determinant of application has a telling expression can be taking my site to do with anything from one won't just for the “scrap the code which can be arbitrarily large.” There is obviously nothing in and he's a conflict? No matter what we all know, if it will see test-suites run project is not been to-and-through the overall solution for the dice.

      Courtesy of Algorithm::MarkovChain and related Perl-Perling.

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Re: The boy who cried... wtf?
by Not_a_Number (Prior) on Mar 31, 2015 at 19:36 UTC

    Could somebody who has an idea about what the f*ck this thread is about please clue me in? Please?

    OK, Wikipedia tells me that 'Hoale' is 'a term used in the U.S. state of Hawaii to refer to individuals of European ancestry, in contrast to those of native Hawaiian ancestry', while a google-translate of '고추장' suggests that it is Korean for 'red pepper'...

    ... and then a SuperSearch for 'social reform' comes up with a single node, namely Anonymonk's post in this thread, which seems to negate the point s/he is trying to make (or does it?).

    I'm sorry, but, as the French saying goes, 'je comprends vite, mais il faut m'expliquer longuement'.

      I won't speak for Your Mother nor claim to. What I read is:

      This is a contentious topic, but to go ahead and tackle it if that's the intent of the thread. There's no need to be vague, because we can handle the specifics. On the other hand, trolled threads tend to get sorted without discussing who is a troll and who isn't. Trying to put labels to it and set standards for it just exacerbates the frustration because there's never going to be a single accepted standard in a community as disparate as ours.

      I'm not entirely sure I read Your Mother's response quite right. There is a lot of symbolism there. I think it's a reasonable translation into more literal words, given some license.

      For what it's worth, I would tend to agree with what I think Your Mother said.

        Holy cats, I’m eloquent! :P

      Yes, yes. Look upon my works, ye Monkies, and despair! My work here is just bedone. The social order is brought in line with the newly infiltrated sock-puppet army’s propagandist objectives. We have won. Dissent is squashed, Hail Hydra!

Re: The boy who cried...
by karlgoethebier (Abbot) on Apr 03, 2015 at 18:43 UTC
    "The boy who cried..."

    It's fascinating to see how sophistication increases day by day on PM.

    The moral of this fable is:

    "This shows how liars are rewarded: even if they tell the truth, no one believes them"

    It sounds much better in German:

    "Wer einmal lügt, dem glaubt man nicht, und wenn er auch die Wahrheit spricht!"

    Overinterpretation?

    My best regards, Karl

    «The Crux of the Biscuit is the Apostrophe»

Re: The boy who cried... troll caller is troll
by Anonymous Monk on Mar 31, 2015 at 22:10 UTC

    everytime on perlmonks , troll caller is troll

    most 99% of the time somebody is called a troll here its just masking for "i don't like what you said (that I'm wrong) but I'm too mad to be rational about it so I call you troll and hope others join in or ignore your posting so the discussion is over"

    troll caller is troll

    the real actual trolls aren't called trolls very often, but the monks try to refute their useless junk and double speak ... they still let them advertise and make money off perlmonks search engine rankings

    some things cannot even be discussed because anyone who dares ask is a troll

      ...troll caller is troll...
      TROLL! oh, wait...
        ...troll caller is troll...
        TROLL! oh, wait...

        When all you have is jokes :) you have jokes

Re: The boy who cried...
by Anonymous Monk on Mar 31, 2015 at 18:14 UTC
    After the organization has been taken over. Now that the troll has been allowed to replicate via sock puppets, this site can now be used to broadcast propaganda. What propaganda? The propaganda of the organization that employed the troll to take over this one. Why? Because this community is just another tool for spreading information. Opinions about things non-Perl are formed and changed here. Often. The troll's sock puppets brings up topics of "social reform" often and they agree with each other, creating a wall of peer pressure.

    Now, anyone who comes close to exposing this conspiracy is labeled the troll.

    This has happened time and time again to many organizations and it seriously appears to have happened here.

Re: The boy who cried...
by sundialsvc4 (Abbot) on Apr 01, 2015 at 22:06 UTC

    Ladies and Gentlemen ... kindly look at your calendar.   What day is it, today?

    That’s my best guess, anyway.   Otherwise ... (sniff, sniff) ... “yeah, I’ll have a toke of whatever they’re smokin,’ please ...”   (For medicinal purposes?   Why, yes!   But of course.)   ...   What’s that?   ID?   Oh, pleeuze.   Awwww, here you go.   Yeah, I was around in the 60’s ...

    - - -

    But, maybe on a slightly more serious note ... perhaps a more realistic point-of-view would be to observe that:   “if anyone actually wanted to be a Troll, PerlMonks is a terrible(!) site to choose in which to do so.”   There’s nobody here but people who are professional users of the Perl language (among many others).   It is not a “popular” site.   It is, strictly, a “purposeful” one, exactly like sites that are devoted to, say, beekeeping, the restoration of reed-organs, or agricultural steam engines.   Therefore, if someone is posting here, (koff, koff ...) it is probably most appropriate to assume that it is not meant as “trolling.”

    PM can quite-justifiably pride itself in being (IMHO ...) “t-h-e go-to site on the Internet” for all matters regarding the Perl programming language,   It earned that reputation years ago and has maintained it ever since.   But ... (and I do not see the “spam postings” which, thankye(!), surely get scrubbed-off every day ...) there also seems to be very few “truly garbage postings” here.   [I will take a respectful pause until the laughter subsides ...]   Generally speaking, and from my humble point of view, PM is an exceptionally well-policed website with an exceptionally positive “signal-to-noise ratio.”   And, also to someone’s great credit, “come to think of it, it always has been.”

      sundialsvc4 : Ladies and Gentlemen ... kindly look at your calendar. What day is it, today?

      Today is april 1st, this thread was posted yesterday march 31st

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