Re^3: Basic Times Table excercise (Witch Hunt)

[LanX]

1nickt, when exactly did I miss that you've been promoted to a moderator of the monastery who's in charge to censor contributions?

Instead of using words like "pollute" and stirring an inquisition/witch hunt climate what about demonstrating your contributions to Perl5 and showing alternatives to development in a positive way?

It's my personal believe that Perl6 should have been better named Perl++ from the beginning and that this resulted in a marketing disaster. ²

But I'd really prefer to see positive contributions to Perl5 by the critics, instead of spilling hatred against the P6 folks.

Nota Bene: it took Perl5 over 15 years to add function signatures to core and it's still experimental.

Now how is this a convincing position to damage other contributions?

²) well, easy to say in hindsight... but I'm repeating this since 2008 ( update and since it's Larry's decision I have to accept it. It's his language!)

[1nickt]

Hi LanX,

I am certainly no moderator, just a monk with an opinion. I believe you might be confused about what censorship is. You seem to want me to self-censor my comments about how I feel that it's inappropriate and counter-productive to the monastery's mission to post here about "Perl6", and 1,000 times more so when it is in the form of blatant thread-hijacking, and now even new-user poaching.

This OP came stating that he is a Perl beginner and he asked a question. u65 jumped in offering code in a different language than he asked about, wrapped up in "See all the buzz" hype. He explicitly said that the OP should consider a different path than the one he had begun by asking a question here. These are facts, not a conspiracy theory.

I have no "hatred" of any person, I just hate freeloading, and I do tend to speak up about it on- and off-line. I also try to contribute where I can, as you can easily see by reading the nodes I've posted. I am a monk here and I contribute here because I wish to further my knowledge of Perl programming by teaching what I know and learning what I don't know from others. I'm pretty sure that's the mission of the monastery, and "Perl6", while it may be interesting in any number of ways, is most charitably described as a distraction from that mission, and most accurately, as an opportunistic land-grabber trying to subvert and co-opt it.

Now here's a question: have you noticed that the monks who are most defensive about "Perl6" are mostly the same handful of most senior ones? In other words, the ones who are most accomplished in Perl 5 and thus have least need of the learning that the monastery exists to foster? Perhaps some of those most expert monks should put themselves in the position of a brand new monk, or an average programmer who doesn't learn new languages for recreation but is just trying to improve his skills to stay employed, or really any one of the thousands of non-expert users of this site, and think about why those folks come here and what they are seeking.