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Re^3: Think Perl 6 (new book)

by 1nickt (Parson)
on May 19, 2017 at 16:15 UTC ( #1190647=note: print w/replies, xml ) Need Help??


in reply to Re^2: Think Perl 6 (new book)
in thread Think Perl 6 (new book)

Look, you're a smart guy. This isn't complicated.

For ~ 20 years or more the word "Perl" referred to a specific computer language. So by definition another language was not Perl.

Then suddenly, in an attempt to mitigate the destruction done by their colossal egos and stubbornness, we find that, having finally acknowledged that P6 is *not* a successor, the P6 group simply decreed a change in the meaning of the word "Perl" to: "a family of languages."

(This is because, as the various official Perl publications repeatedly state, today, "Perl6" is *not* the same language as Perl 5. It's a so-called "sister language", whatever that means. So in order to continue to use the name Perl they had to redefine its meaning.)

I reject this Newspeak, as I reject the intent behind it, which is to enable a new language, in pre-production development, to freeload on the reputation of Perl, rather than stand or fall on its own.

Why would I change my opinion about that?


The way forward always starts with a minimal test.

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Re^4: Think Perl 6 (new book)
by pvaldes (Chaplain) on May 20, 2017 at 13:33 UTC

    I reject the intent to enable a new language, in pre-production development, to freeload on the reputation of Perl

    Hum, Is Perl6 in pre-production still?.

    The brand here is Larry Wall plus minions army (all of them Perl masters if I'm not wrong), not Perl. Perl6 can afford, and should afford, to freeload on the reputation of its own creator. The opposite would be illogical. Would be like to say that "only Ford T are true Ford cars and the next models freeload in Ford T success". Well, not only freeload, also improve it with better security measures, more comfort, less noise, etc

      Careful, you are talking to a fanatic.

      Hi,

      ... freeload on the reputation of its own creator ...

      Absolutely! This would have been great:

      Welcome to camelia.org, home of Camelia. Camelia is a new language, with design led by Larry Wall, creator of P +erl.


      The way forward always starts with a minimal test.

        Thankfully not, for us, because then we'd want folks to prefix their titles with "[Camelia]", which is significantly more verbose; and thus people would be even less good about doing it.

        I reckon we are the only monastery ever to have a dungeon stuffed with 16,000 zombies.
        So you agree with yourself?

        Well it's a start.

Re^4: Think Perl 6 (new book)
by Anonymous Monk on May 20, 2017 at 12:30 UTC
    You can have your opinion but people will listen more if you let go of your hatred

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