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Re: Feature: Auto hide. Change: show node vote counts to all, not just logged in users. (bullshit ideas)

by Anonymous Monk
on Jul 19, 2017 at 02:27 UTC ( #1195398=note: print w/replies, xml ) Need Help??


in reply to Feature: Auto hide. Change: show node vote counts to all, not just logged in users.

I think this idea is bullshit,

Much more obviously bullshit than sort by reputation as default

votes don't indicate a quality "answer" at most they hint that that it might be not completely wrong and evil

I also think those who expressed concern about "newbs" and search engines are fakes and shitheads who didn't take more than a second to think about the idea

Now you want to slap "quality answer" moderation on 18 years of content (1.2 million nodes)?

Thats batshit

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Re^2: Feature: Auto hide. Change: show node vote counts to all, not just logged in users. (bullshit ideas)
by jdporter (Canon) on Jul 19, 2017 at 02:46 UTC
    Now you want to slap "quality answer" moderation on 18 years of content (1.2 million nodes)?

    I'm pretty sure nobody said that.

      I'm pretty sure nobody said that.

      Said what?

      If showing negative reputation nodes (no click required) was "fine" for 18 years, why is it a problem now?

        Said what?

        Do you really not know how quotes work in threaded fora?

        I'll try again:

        Now you want to slap "quality answer" moderation on 18 years of content (1.2 million nodes)?

        No. And I don't know why you asked that, because it doesn't follow from anything anyone else has said in the thread.

Re^2: Feature: Auto hide. Change: show node vote counts to all, not just logged in users. (bullshit ideas)
by Your Mother (Chancellor) on Jul 19, 2017 at 02:57 UTC

    Yeah! You tell íem! Bats and bulls living together, and fakers who didnít think for two seconds between them. Nodes with -10 reputation are valuable too. SJJAPHs, unite!

      Your Mother: Yeah! You tell íem! Bats and bulls living together, and fakers who didnít think for two seconds between them. Nodes with -10 reputation are valuable too. SJJAPHs, unite!

      Yeah,

      How many new SOPW have negative reputations?

      How many new Meditations have negative reputations?

      And still get lots of replies and discussion going past Re^10 multiple times?

      Even reaped nodes with negative reputation get lots of followup, even from you

      So how exactly are they not valuable? Just because they're "unpopular"?

        How many SOPWs have -10 (total, not 10 downvotes) reps? None now. It almost never happens and when it does, itís generally deserved. You can raise contrary examples if you know any. When I see them itís requests for free code or job posting. Neither is of any value or should be shown or spidered.

        I donít recall replying to reaped nodes. They arenít instantly reaped you know and when Iím here, Iím a compulsive Recent Threads refresher with a post template and 90wpm hands.

        There is only one monk posting nodes that land below -10 reputation as a rule. Worst nodes of the day, the week, and the month are all owned by this monk. Once the sabbatical period catches up, it will be all or close to all of worst nodes of the year, again. There is not a single other current monk this would affect. Even historically it only would have meant anything to a small handful of monks, including the never quite known as watercrackers despite my attempts to popularize it and logicus; neither always deserved it, in my estimation, but the ethos here is real and needs to be respected. In contrast, a site that expects only answers and never code-free, citation-free, pontification, and bragging like StackOverflow would chew and spit.

        The monk in question posts advice that is sometimes dangerousóand could get a junior dev fired, disciplined, put on a PIPóbut has the unfortunate habit of being half-right a lot of the time. Never containing direct answers. Just handwaving, buggy nonsense, C // comments in Perl code, mistaken assertions, advice that was questionable in 1998 and just awful today, constant assertions about wrong node/logout, frequent rehashing of settled issues that are only personal, straight up lies about voting habits, blah, blah, blah, and despite polite requests and helpful advice, this is never corrected. Itís been years. Itís a waste of everyoneís time to call it out over and over and it starts fights between other monks. If the nodes simply disappeared with the votes they are already gettingĖ

        It would be a benefit to everyone and might be the wake-up call that is finally answered. The ringing bothers all of us.

        So how exactly are they not valuable?

        Remember, we're talking about just "hiding" them in some way, from Anonymous Monk only. To logged-in users like Your Mother, they will appear as normal -- unless the monk takes some measures personally, e.g. via css, to alter that.

        So in answer to your question, this would be essentially a new form of Moderation: Nodes which the community has deemed to be egregiously bad will be hidden from Anonymous Monk, and whoever else doesn't want to see them. More or less exactly how current moderation works with "approval": unapproved root posts are not visible to Anonymous Monks via the usual lists. (They're not hidden entirely; they can still be viewed directly, for example, or found via searching.)

        I reckon we are the only monastery ever to have a dungeon stuffed with 16,000 zombies.

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