Re: Re: Reactions to OO-Perl

[perrin]

I wouldn't suggest Java for someone with no programming experience. Check out this article about the pain of writing "Hello World" in Java. I think Perl is fine for a newbie. My first language was AppleSoft Basic, and it was a good one because it was so easy to get some positive results out of it. That kind of quick success is important for new programmers.

[dragonchild]

This kind of quick success is the reason why I'm teaching my fiancee Perl as a first language. And, as I will be teaching her strict and warnings and good technique from the get-go, she shouldn't have any problem with OO-Perl. *grins*

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[netjackal]

I agree that Java is a pain to program in ... and it is one of the reasons I have stayed away from it so far.

I have not actually been on a formal Perl course so I cannot really comment on how good Perl will be for a beginner on a good course. But I made the comment that I did not recommend Perl to beginners on the basis that they are going to be self-taught and more importantly 'self-policing'. That is the only guru to tell them to use strict and not to use map in void context etc is themselves.

I think Perl is a good language to suck people in to programming because it is tons more fun coding in Perl than any other language I have done

A simple language like BASIC is good for beginners and I agree with that but I think Perl is not just simple .. I think the way it is makes it easy for beginners with no proper guidance to abuse certain features without knowing it.

Having said that ... sites like perlmonks.org and mailing list like [e-mail] do a lot to help these people.