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Re: Perl 6 will make amends (was:Perl's Bad Ideas)

by clintp (Curate)
on Apr 07, 2002 at 04:03 UTC ( #157226=note: print w/ replies, xml ) Need Help??


in reply to Perl 6 will make amends (was:Perl's Bad Ideas)
in thread Perl's Bad Ideas

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I don't know if Larry has considered their disposition yet.
*whisper*Banish them... they were a terrible hack... develop a general purpose mechanism instead of this abomination...*whisper*
Perl's laissez faire approach to OO.
Staying in Perl 6. But being augmented by a second, B&D, OO mechanism.

BTW, those who are complaining are, for the most part, neither grinding axes nor bondage freaks. They are generally people with large commercial OO production systems to build, who would prefer not to have to jump through so many hoops to get compile-time checking, declarative attributes, pre- and post-conditions, strong encapsulation, etc. That is, they genuinely need all those valuable, scalable OO tools that Perl 5's laissez faire approach to OO trades off.

I've built several large (some very large) commercial OO production systems and never found Perl's OO lacking in any significant way. (For that matter I've built effective OO systems in C as well!) Most of the nits you listed can be solved with good design and mild discipline by the programmers. No whips, chains, or leather required.

Personally, if I can use Perl's OO as I currently do I'll remain happy as a pig in mud.


Comment on Re: Perl 6 will make amends (was:Perl's Bad Ideas)
Re: Re: Perl 6 will make amends (was:Perl's Bad Ideas)
by TheDamian (Priest) on Apr 07, 2002 at 21:44 UTC
    I've built several large (some very large) commercial OO production systems and never found Perl's OO lacking in any significant way.

    Well, sure. But not everyone is as smart, or as disciplined as you. And even if they were, many of them work in large programming teams with other people who certainly aren't as smart, or as disciplined as you.

    Such people really appreciate tools (and whips and chains) that make life simpler.

    Personally, if I can use Perl's OO as I currently do I'll remain happy as a pig in mud.

    Then you'll be wallowing contentedly for many years to come.

    On the other hand, I suspect that you'll also come to appreciate how much easier and quicker Perl 6 makes it to build classes. And that eventually you may even enjoy the whip of design-by-contract or the chain of proper encapsulation.

    C'mon! You know you want to! ;-)

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