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Re: Re: Re: On Hubris

by Molt (Chaplain)
on Apr 19, 2002 at 11:15 UTC ( #160492=note: print w/replies, xml ) Need Help??

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I know well what you're saying here. Recently I had a performance review with my line-manager, it was all going very well, and suddenly he started on about how I was an 'expert' Perl programmer.

I stopped for a minute, recalling meetings and the people I'd met there, many of who I do consider to be far better Perl programmers than I am.

I told him I didn't agree, I said I'm not there yet but I'm working towards it. He looked slightly confused, probably not used to people disagreeing with good things in reviews, and told me to compare myself with the other Perl programmers in the department. I could suddenly see his point.

Now I have the advantage of both having people who know far more to learn from, and people who know far less to teach to. It inspires a wonderful combination of hubris and humility. I'd recommend it, you run to try and catch up with the pace-setters ahead, but make sure you're trying to set pace for those behind.

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Re: Re: Re: Re: On Hubris
by chaoticset (Chaplain) on Apr 19, 2002 at 14:20 UTC
    When they offered the Perl course at my school recently, the same thing happened to me. One of the students who's working closely with the teacher who got the course accepted looked at me and said that -- for me -- it would be an "easy A, since you're the Perl guru around here".

    My first thought was: Boy, is this place in trouble if I'm the Perl guru around here! My second thought was an attempt to think of anybody else, anyone, who I could even attempt to talk Perl with. Nobody came to mind. It makes sense, unfortunately -- school administration is made up of the kind of people who would never come in contact with it, there's really only maybe five staff members who can do anything sophisticated with a computer anyway -- logically, nobody would hardly have heard of Perl.

    I'm guru by default, it would seem...

    You are what you think.

Re: Re: Re: Re: On Hubris
by Dog and Pony (Priest) on Apr 19, 2002 at 11:31 UTC
    That is what I use perlmonks for. :) Since I got this new job, I have noone to teach me stuff anymore, so I have to search for knowledge and mentorship elsewhere. It works pretty good, because people ask a lot of questions I wouldn't have thought of, and others answer them, and I get to learn stuff. Or I answer questions after finding the answer, again learning more. It is great.
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[Discipulus]: Corion are you would able to realize such thing? O_O
[Corion]: In the same vein I have a script that automates Firefox to enter some data into another system. It's not faster than the people using the script if they were to do it manually, but they prefer not having to check the data and not having typos when ...
[Corion]: ... entering the data
[Corion]: Discipulus: I don't know whether I could really do that, but the init process itself mostly launches other processes, and the whole startup is just following a path of dependencies and making sure they are all running. Which basically is what ...
[Discipulus]: when at work my time is (temporarly) owned by the firm, so i do not care (coworkers whatch movies.. I code Perl)
[Corion]: ... make already does, except for files instead of programs. But maybe with some /proc hackery, that could be eliminated and one could use plain make :-D
[choroba]: systemd just makes is asynchronous
[choroba]: so, make -j
[Corion]: Discipulus: Yeah - but when writing Perl to save time (instead of having fun), it helps to look whether you're actually saving time ;) Why spend 5 minutes doing manually what you can spend three years automating? ;)
[Corion]: choroba: Oh, yeah :-D

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