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Is it possible for a monk to rename himself?

by vkonovalov (Monk)
on Jun 07, 2002 at 06:49 UTC ( #172449=monkdiscuss: print w/ replies, xml ) Need Help??

Is it possible for a monk to rename himself?
My current name is boring, I want to be a Weasel, place appropriate photo and act like him :)

Otherwise I'll be doomed to start new creature and wait till it will be capable to have a picture.

Hence another question.
If starting new creature, is it okay for a person to have more than one login name to monastery? Does this fit to moral (and ethical:) rules? (not to mention that 100% sure those creatures will ++ each others)

Warmest wishes,
Vadim

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Re: Is it possible for a monk to rename himself?
by Biker (Priest) on Jun 07, 2002 at 08:24 UTC

    "If starting new creature, is it okay for a person to have more than one login name to monastery?"

    As far as I can see, there's nothing to stop it. I don't think there is any way to garrantee this could/would be detected, so it becomes more of a personal issue.

    How do you want to spend your time at the Monastery? As one identity or as several? Do you want to remember "who you are" before using the CB? Before posting a node? Or do you just want to be yourself?

    "Does this fit to moral (and ethical:) rules?"

    Whos moral? It's your own moral. Live by your own ethics and feel as good as it makes you.
    Personaly I think it's not so much a question of if you should have multiple logins, but more of how you would use potential multiple logins.

    "(not to mention that 100% sure those creatures will ++ each others)"

    Again, it's very much up to your own moral and ethic. What about people who know each other. Do they ++ each other? It's up to everyones moral. And also very much up to how much you value the XP.

    How would you feel to become a Saint, knowing that your best (?) friend has upvoted even your most silly nodes?
    How would you feel to become a Saint, knowing that you upvoted all your postings yourself, using a second (or third?) login? Your call. But think before acting. Your consious will guide you.


    Everything went worng, just as foreseen.

      Good monk Biker makes some valid points about one person using multiple PerlMonk IDs, and I'd like to add just one thought.

      In addition to considering his own personal ethics (conscience?), brother vkonovalov should also weigh the likely or possible response from fellow monks.   In the past, such actions have resulted in substantial ill will.   Feelings have gotten hurt, and a monk or two have even left in a huff.   I'm not saying that punitive reactions are necessarily good for the Monastery, mind you, just mentioning what I've seen in just over two years here.

      Anyways, it looks to me like that's why Vadim asked.   8^)

          cheers,
          Don
          striving toward Perl Adept
          (it's pronounced "why-bick")

      Update: re: "In the past such actions..."
      I didn't mean Vadim's actions, I meant people using multiple PerlMonk IDs, aside from the unusual cases mentioned elsewhere in this thread.   Sorry for any confusion.   There's doubtless more clear ways to express that thought, but my English As An Only Language isn't always the best.   8^P

        Do you mean I injured someone recently?
        Or two years ago?

        I honestly wish only best wishes to all people here! I am grateful to their quick help they usually give.

        to add an item for having several IDs in monastery, I remember when in school time sometimes people used to have two diaries, one for good marks, and other for bad ones :)

        Best wishes,
        Vadim.

Re: Is it possible for a monk to rename himself?
by grinder (Bishop) on Jun 07, 2002 at 08:35 UTC
    I'm felt sure that BooK asked to have his nick changed from just plain "book", or maybe I was on drugs. But that's just a question of case sensitivity. Other than that, it's just not possible.

    Some other threads on the question:

    It is generally considered poor form to have more than one nick on the site. That said, there are a couple of exceptions. The above-mentioned BooK runs the Mongueurs account, blakem runs a bot on the thepen account, and Abigail registered a new account Abigail-II, for valid reasons not worth explaining here.

    No-one really bothers with the fact that a person with two accounts will use them for mutual voting, simply because of the effort required. You have to log in each day from each account and spend the votes. In half the time you could craft a good response, or a good meditation, and gain twice the XP that voting would.

    You could register the new nick (I see that it is still up for grabs), update your current bio to say that it is retired, and link to the new home node. People will see if you continue to use the old account, because the "last here" field will be updated.

    But it would be a bit of a pity, you're already a monk, you have 32 writeups at this time. Why not stay with this nick?


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      I'm felt sure that BooK asked to have his nick changed from just plain "book", or maybe I was on drugs. But that's just a question of case sensitivity. Other than that, it's just not possible.

      Case is not much a problem. typing "book" in the search box leads me right to BooK's home page.

      -- stefp -- check out TeXmacs wiki

      You could register the new nick (I see that it is still up for grabs), update your current bio to say that it is retired, and link to the new home node.

      That's exactly what I'm planning to do - for my own reasons, I've been getting rid of all my "Screamer" accounts wherever feasible. I've given it some thought and decided to reach saint on the Screamer account (I'm vain like that :-)), then register a new, permanent name, leave a link to my new homenode on the Screamer homenode, put a link back to the Screamer homenode into my new one, and carry a remark to that effect in the new account's sig for a while.

      Using the two accounts to cross-upvote didn't even occur to me, and seems hardly worth the effort. The real problem I thought of was people referring to my posts. Being able to change nicks would break the "integrity" of other people's references to me by the nick "Screamer" or links to the Screamer homenode, f.ex in reply to a note of mine, or esp so when referring to a note of mine in a completely different place in that or even a different node.

      So long as you are not using the accounts concurrently, but instead, entirely abandon the old one and use only the new one, I don't see any kind of ethical implications.

      Makeshifts last the longest.

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