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Voting slipups (see results before voting)

by jcwren (Prior)
on Jul 01, 2002 at 21:25 UTC ( #178688=poll: print w/ replies, xml ) Need Help??

vote on Voting slipups (see results before voting)

Error rate >= 50%
[bar] 28/5%
Error rate 40%-49%
[bar] 9/2%
Error rate 30%-39%
[bar] 13/2%
Error rate 20%-29%
[bar] 17/3%
Error rate 10%-19%
[bar] 20/4%
Error rate 6%-10%
[bar] 26/5%
Error rate 1%-5%
[bar] 77/15%
Error rate < 1%
[bar] 224/43%
I don't know when I mess up
[bar] 108/21%
522 total votes
Comment on Voting slipups (see results before voting)
(jcwren) Re: Voting slipups (see results before voting)
by jcwren (Prior) on Jul 01, 2002 at 21:28 UTC

    This is a poll of how often after voting, you realize that you selected -- instead of ++, or ++ instead of --

    It's difficult sometimes to realize that you didn't vote what you intend. But sometimes you realize it just as you click 'Vote', or if you use the browsers back button to go check it out.

    Perhaps with OBJECTIVE input, suggestions for improving the voting system may come about.

    There is no CowboyNeal or paco option. If you don't vote nodes, don't bother voting the poll, since your input provides no meaningful data.

    --Chris

    e-mail jcwren

      Sometimes after voting a ++, I'll try to use the down arrow key to scroll down to the vote! button. This changes my vote to --. I'm used to using the arrow keys to scroll a web page.
      This trips me up every now and then.
        Sometimes after voting a ++, I'll try to use the down arrow key to scroll down to the vote! button.
        I did this a few times at first, but soon learnt that it was best not to do it this way. My error rate would be < 1%, now that I have got that coordinated
(wil) Re: Voting slipups (see results before voting)
by wil (Priest) on Jul 01, 2002 at 21:38 UTC
    And if you've got an itchy trigger finger like me, and hit the ++ or -- on the wrong post in a thread, remember to turn on Null vote in your user settings that will allow you to reverse your mistake.

    My only contribution to this topic is to request that Null vote be turned on by default ..

    - wil
Re: Voting slipups (see results before voting)
by rattusillegitimus (Friar) on Jul 01, 2002 at 21:40 UTC

    I guess my error rate is actually 0%, since I've never voted -- on anything. My preference is to simply ++ those nodes I believe are worthwhile, either because they ask good questions or present good information. Thus far, I've always found enough good posts to use all of my votes on. ;) It's better, IMNSHO, to encourage our fellow monks who post positive contributions this way than to worry about "punishing" the negative contributions via --.

    -rattus

      But that's not what the poll is asking. Even if you only ever vote ++ (or -- for that matter) you may sometimes vote for something you didn't intend to. That would be an "unintended vote" as much as voting the wrong way.

        Heh, voting either way on the wrong node honestly hadn't occured to me.
        Note to self: There's More Than One Way To Make A Mistake ;)

LoL - is this a trick question?
by cLive ;-) (Parson) on Jul 01, 2002 at 23:05 UTC
    So, you're going to have people voting that they vote wrongly 50% of the time. How do we know that they meant to vote that way?

    cLive ;-)

    --
    seek(JOB,$$LA,0);

Re: Voting slipups (see results before voting)
by {NULE} (Hermit) on Jul 02, 2002 at 01:19 UTC
    VUI - don't let it happen to you:
    That pluth pluth looked *hick* like a minuth to me, occifer vroom. *hick* No, I haven had any *hick* anything to drink!
    Sigh. Another sad case of voting under the influence...

    {NULE}
    --
    http://www.nule.org

Re: Voting slipups (see results before voting)
by silent11 (Vicar) on Jul 02, 2002 at 01:42 UTC
    <American_sarcasm>
    A few Floridian friends of mine review all my votes before I actually cast them. They know how I 'really' meant to cast my vote when oftentimes I don't. Thank goodness there is no such thing as a pregnant chad in the monastery!
    </American_sarcasm>

    -Silent11

      As a votinK resident fo Palm Beach County, Flarida I reSent the impplcatio\Un that we are alll a bUnch of idiots wiTh noo attention to detail.


        perigeeV, it's so nice to finally meet one of the Floridians that help put the 'Duhhh' if Florida. :)

        /me remembers that he's from Texas and doesn't have much room to talk.

        cheers,
        Silent11
Re: Voting slipups (see results before voting)
by newrisedesigns (Curate) on Jul 02, 2002 at 02:06 UTC

    I had to vote "I don't know" because if you really slip, how would you know?

    Unless you voted on a node that was just created, you couldn't tell by the reputation.

    I usually double-check, but then again, i've been known to screw things up. :)

    John J Reiser
    newrisedesigns.com

Re: Voting slipups (see results before voting)
by jarich (Curate) on Jul 02, 2002 at 02:39 UTC
    Do we count our considerations? Sometimes I hit vote (or is it submit) for node considerations and see a delete vote where I hope I voted edit, and I worry sometimes that maybe I misvoted.

    I don't usually go back and check though.

    I've never noticed any of my misvotes for ++s or --s.

    jarich

Re: Voting slipups (see results before voting)
by NaSe77 (Monk) on Jul 02, 2002 at 06:27 UTC
    i tent to say that my error rate concerning voting is rather small ... i'd say 1-5%

    unfortunaltely my error rate concerning other things (programming, some decissions in life) is too hight

    ----
    NaSe
    :x

Re: Voting slipups (see results before voting)
by malaga (Pilgrim) on Jul 10, 2002 at 08:44 UTC
    People probably mistakenly hit the -- on my nodes.
Re: Voting slipups (see results before voting)
by spacewarp (Pilgrim) on Jul 10, 2002 at 20:52 UTC
    Perhaps, after someone votes, a link can appear under the reputation listing, with the text "Change Vote" or similar. This would link to a form to change the vote. The idea here is that it's possible to change a vote, while making it a non-trivial process, so people would be less inclinded to change after simply seeing the way others have voted (which is, I assume, why one can't see the reputation score until they vote).

    Spacewarp

    DISCLAIMER:
    Use of this advanced computing technology does not imply an endorsement
    of Western industrial civilization.

      You have to be careful here. Part of the reason the reputation isn't shown before monks vote on a node is so as not to influence the voting, as you say. If you can arbitrarily change your vote after casting it (with no penalty; I'm not sure how the form you suggest would work.) then this problem pops up, albeit on a much smaller scale.

      First off if this misvoting is a serious concern, then it should be possible to at least print how you voted next to the rep. This could be done only immediately after the vote, unless the database is reworked to record each and every vote ever cast. (As opposed to currently, where I suspect it is only recorded that you voted, not how you voted, although this is only a suspicion.)

      If in fact it is recorded how you vote, then changing a vote would be easier to implement, but you should be penalized if you decide to change your vote. Say by using up an extra vote to change an old vote. Additionally, some thought would have to be given to how this would affect the experience of the writer of the node in question.

      elbieelbieelbie

        I think consuming an extra vote alone won't do it - especially on higher levels you have enough daily votes that it won't make a difference. It is a very rare day that I manage to spend all my 40 votes, and even with 30 at level 8 I often had a few left over at the end of the voting day.

        I was going to propose it should cost an XP, but both penalties at once would be even better. If it is at all implemented (and I don't think I like the idea), then it should really hurt to take the offer. The message should clearly be "pay attention next time, and don't get used to this feature".

        Makeshifts last the longest.

Re: Voting slipups (see results before voting)
by SpongeBob (Novice) on Jul 17, 2002 at 05:00 UTC
    I mess up 10.3% of the time, but I didn't see a category for that. I'll have to ask Sandy what she thinks; she's one smart squirrel...

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