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New Perl/Tk-Designer (Free)

by cybertrekker (Initiate)
on Aug 09, 2002 at 12:53 UTC ( #188887=perlmeditation: print w/ replies, xml ) Need Help??

hi,

I have published my free Perl/Tk-Designer on

        http://www.alex-adam.de/

Try it and tell me what you think!

I please you to give me feedback into the board as otherwise I will delete the Visual Designer.

thanks,
Alex

Edited: ~Fri Aug 9 16:02:07 2002 (GMT) by footpad: Moved to Meditations (and added HTML formatting), per Consideration.

Comment on New Perl/Tk-Designer (Free)
Re: New Perl/Tk-Designer (Free)
by RMGir (Prior) on Aug 09, 2002 at 15:03 UTC
    $ unzip -l pd.zip Archive: pd.zip Length Date Time Name -------- ---- ---- ---- 421888 08-07-02 17:30 files/about.exe 4092 11-11-00 13:22 files/com.nee 96 10-21-00 11:47 files/empty.pfm 683008 12-29-00 16:59 files/pdesign.exe 158208 12-29-00 16:58 Setup.exe -------- ------- 1267292 5 files
    On your website, it says "100% Perl-Code, Perl-Tk" under one of the screen shots. Is it the app that's all Perl, or the generated code?

    Looking at the contents of the zip, it looks like the app is a Windows binary, so I guess that refers to the generated code.

    You may not to find a lot of monks here who run Windows, AND are willing to install binaries off of the net...

    I certainly won't at the office, although I might try this out once I get home, since it does look interesting.
    --
    Mike

Re: New Perl/Tk-Designer (Free) not Open :(
by frankus (Priest) on Aug 09, 2002 at 15:08 UTC
    I was really looking forward to this, not least of all as I installed Ruby-TK on my iPaq and I'm learning Tk :(
    Most of the documentation for Ruby cites Perl/Tk as a reference.

    Sadly I didn't notice anything indicating OS flavours on the page, so I was disappointed to discover it's all .exe's,
    given that Perl is an interpreted language most of the time.

    When you said you wanted us to look at it, I thought it was in some capacity greater than beta-tester.
    I thought perhaps you were looking to release the code as open source, like source forge

    I'd love to test the code on my Debian Box where I develop when I'm not using SunOS..
    Any chance of putting the source up there? So it can be run on several platforms, I feel it would be for your benefit also.

    --

    Brother Frankus.

    ¤

      You may want to try Guido
      This is a Perl/Tk App for building Perl/Tk Apps and may be of some use to you.
Re: New Perl/Tk-Designer (Free)
by Rex(Wrecks) (Curate) on Aug 09, 2002 at 16:07 UTC
    Hey this is pretty cool! Quick and easy to use.

    I'm also confused by the 100% Perl quote, I tried a disassembler and it does not appear to be Perl code at all, at the very least, not "compiled" with PerlApp or with Perlcc.

    All in all, pretty cool. I was able to whip up a quick frontend in no time at all. Personaly, I would probably only use this as a learning tool for TK but even so it has value in that regard.

    The only concern I have has been expressed above, how do I know the code generated is going to work on *nix?, copy and run all the time would suck. Also, how many assumtions do you make that you are running ActiveState's Perl?

    Looks like a good start, I would recomend portability as the next "feature".

    Bugs

  • No "Save before quiting?" dialog when closing.
  • Help tab should consist of more than an "About" entry. If it doesn't have Help...don't call it Help.
  • Having samples would be a good thing.
  • When running something with an illegal command the error window did not always popup, had to push the "run" button several times to get the error.
  • The error message was in German, I could figure it out...but my German is pretty rusty these days :)

    "Nothing is sure but death and taxes" I say combine the two and its death to all taxes!
      Help tab should consist of more than an "About" entry. If it doesn't have Help...don't call it Help.

      Nope. Putting "about" in the help menu is standard GUI design under Windows. (theres even some dumb acronym for it :-) Although I agree that putting "help" in the help menu is usually more important than putting "about" in the help menu. I assume that this is an early release so he's probably waiting for some users (and English ones at that) to help write up his help files.

      Hmm, on second though, im guessing, but somehow i suspect that if there _had_ been help there it would have been in german. :-)

      Yves / DeMerphq
      ---
      Software Engineering is Programming when you can't. -- E. W. Dijkstra (RIP)

        Hmm, agree that the "About" tabs are usually under "Help" menus in most Windows apps, however when there is only "About", I have usually seen it under a (redundantly named) "About" menu.

        Style I guess, I just think that if you advertise Help, it should be there :) And you may be right, help may be on the way and he is using it as a placeholder.

        "Nothing is sure but death and taxes" I say combine the two and its death to all taxes!
Re: New Perl/Tk-Designer (Free)
by demerphq (Chancellor) on Aug 09, 2002 at 19:42 UTC
    I think it looks very intersting and will be playing with it over the next few days. Thanks.

    But the boys are right, you should say that you wrote it in Delphi, and perhaps provide source as well. (there are a few perl/delphi hackers here that just might contribute... me included.)

    Oh, im assuming you did it in delphi.... Please tell me it isnt VB :-)

    Yves / DeMerphq
    ---
    Software Engineering is Programming when you can't. -- E. W. Dijkstra (RIP)

Re: New Perl/Tk-Designer (Free)
by PodMaster (Abbot) on Aug 09, 2002 at 21:24 UTC
    I think it's interesting (potentially cool even ;).

    I was, still am, planning on writing one (a little simple) in wxPerl (it would be sizer-oriented and would generate code something like this).

    I couldn't figure things out really quickly, so i'm wondering if there is a tutorial on using your gizmo?
    ( some things are not obvious to me, and i'd hate to spend hours decoding. I like guides. I spent about 10 minutes giving it a shot.)

    I am a little accustomed to using that other non-free multi-language Wx GUI designer (forget the name, haven't used it in a while).

    Can you post some example generated code? (i really would appreciate a tutorial)

    ____________________________________________________
    ** The Third rule of perl club is a statement of fact: pod is sexy.

Re: New Perl/Tk-Designer (Free)
by toma (Vicar) on Aug 12, 2002 at 05:42 UTC
    A really good example for the Perl/Tk-Designer would be to use it to recreate a complete Perl/Tk-Designer.

    Then you would have a really great example, and it would be in pure Perl/Tk.

    I used to use an expensive GUI generator called UIMX, which had been bootstrapped to create itself. It was easy to discover the capabilities of UIMX by just running it.

    It should work perfectly the first time! - toma

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