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Offering Plate with a twist

by Jaap (Curate)
on Oct 06, 2002 at 20:59 UTC ( #203206=monkdiscuss: print w/ replies, xml ) Need Help??

Looking at the offering plate, it struck me that i would be much more inclined to donate if the offering plate were a little more like this:
  • Not link to 'some' other domain (Yet Another Society). There is no mention of perlmonks.org on the offering page.
  • Make donations more direct. Maybe a little like this:

Help perlmonks.org to buy a new webserver we desperately need.
What it costs$ 1234,-
What we received so far$ 678,-
What is left$ 556,-
What you donate$ (    ),-

Comment on Offering Plate with a twist
Re: Offering Plate with a twist
by mr2 (Friar) on Oct 06, 2002 at 21:39 UTC
    yes ... it's a good idea ... we don't even know where do the money go ... (atleast it's interesting)
Re: Offering Plate with a twist
by rbc (Curate) on Oct 07, 2002 at 02:21 UTC
    I'd buy a Perlmonk's T-Shirt if the have any XXL's left :)
    Someone post a link please.
Re: Offering Plate with a twist
by davorg (Chancellor) on Oct 07, 2002 at 07:06 UTC

    It might help if the text was a little clearer about the relationships between the various organisations involved. Here's a brief history:

    In July 2001, Perl Monks (and Perl Mongers) announced that they were merging with Yet Another Society (the people that organise the YAPC conferences). In December 2001, YAS announced that they were setting up an internal unit called The Perl Foundation to handle all of their Perl work (YAS also works with other Open Source technologies). Perl Monks and Perl Mongers both became part of The Perl Foundation.

    Therefore Perl Monks no longer really exists as a separate entity - which is why the the offering plate takes you to a YAS web site. For information about what TPF is doing with your money, see the newletters on their site.

    I'd be happy to answer any further questions about the relationships between the various bodies.

    --
    <http://www.dave.org.uk>

    "The first rule of Perl club is you do not talk about Perl club."
    -- Chip Salzenberg

Re: Offering Plate with a twist
by zentara (Archbishop) on Oct 07, 2002 at 18:11 UTC
    Everytime I hear "offering plate" I get the thought that maybe perlmonks should have a "script-for-fee-service". I'm not sure about how you could implement it, but the knowledgable monks around here, seem to be able to whip up complex scripts during a coffee break. There are always people looking for this or that task to be done by a well-thought-out script, why not offer something like: "Custom scripts: $.20 per line, sockets extra :-) " I don't want to suggest that the perlmonks start competing with the free lancers, but there may be a niche for those 100 line scripts, that some IT department needs in a hurry, and their perl-person would need 3 days to do what the monks here do in a blink of an eye.
      The only problem with a "script-for-fee" idea, is that Perlmonks has grown from infancy by being an open house of ideas that people are free to take from and input. Most of the monks (myself included), try to give back ideas as a gester of thanks for the knowledge they've gained here.

      If we really wanted to pay for code/ideas/suggestions/etc., then we could subscribe to another pay service. However, since Perl is an open source programming language, it seems fitting that getting support for the base (and also advanced) topics should be somewhat close to free. You could always hire merlyn to do a code review for you. He's damn good at it. You can hire Dave Roth to write you a custom Win32 module (he's damn good at it too!) as well. There are many "script-for-fee" places out there. You just need to go and find them.

      I don't think that any sort of "pay-for-service" idea will do any good for the monestary. With that said, I know next paycheck, I'll be donating $100 or so just to say thanks. Just do the same and the Monestary will be alright.

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        Yeah, it would be hard to give out free advice on the "newest nodes" page , then turn around and ask for money on another page. But I think it could work, for companies who wanted to support Perlmonks, but needed something "real for their money"(i.e. for the accounting dept.), instead of making a donation. Imagine a "collaborative projects page" which has all the "script requests" on it. Then all the monks could hash out the problem online, like they do with the newest nodes. They usually come up with the "best solution", and then some other monks could volunteer to write the docs, which would then be reviewed by all in a similar manner.

        I remember back when the web was taking off, there was a REAL monastery somewhere out west, that made their money by writing html. They even were featured on a national news broadcast. My dream now, is to build a "retirement home" for down and out old programmers. It would give old nerds someplace to go and be amoung fellow geek-retirees, who would then raise cash by implementing the above script writing plan.

Re: Offering Plate with a twist
by $Variable_B on Oct 12, 2002 at 03:48 UTC
    How old is your current server? (model year) and what model year is the new one your looking at. Maybe give me some specs on it so I know your getting a good server and a $556 donation would be no problem.

    -Variable_B

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