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add to (Personal Nodelet|Scratchpad) links

by zigdon (Deacon)
on Oct 30, 2002 at 13:32 UTC ( #209058=monkdiscuss: print w/ replies, xml ) Need Help??

I just noticed today (is it new?) that we have two links at the top of each page: 'add to Personal Nodelet' and 'add to Scratchpad'. Since those two are on each page, and are confined to the same table cell as (print, xml), I'd like to ask the text on these links be shortened. Perhpas say '+Personal', '+Scratchpad'?

This way we'll have less cases where they wrap to multiple lines, pushing down all the content (and the nodelets on the right), creating an odd-looking gap between the header of the page and it's body.

Thanks for your time and efforts!

-- Dan

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Re: add to (Personal Nodelet|Scratchpad) links
by MZSanford (Curate) on Oct 30, 2002 at 13:59 UTC
    I agree with this. Also, if you have the Perlsonal Nodelet, you already have these links ... seems to be a bit of duplication. Who has been listening to project managment ?
    from the frivolous to the serious

      This is not entirely true: you can disable personal nodelet on Monastery Gates or non-front pages. So if you enable personal nodelet only for the frontpage, you still can add nodes to scratchpad and/or personal nodelet using the new feature added today.

      There should be something in user settings to control the behaviour of these two new links...

      Ciao, Valerio

(tye)Re: add to (Personal Nodelet|Scratchpad) links
by tye (Cardinal) on Oct 30, 2002 at 14:12 UTC

    I'd rather just drop the links. I think the header is the wrong place for such functionality. At least move them to the footer.

    Update: I've long planned to update the header so that the "by ... on ... (print,xml)" part is in a table row with the "Need Help??" link instead of in a table column with the node title. After that, I wanted to add more information such as "last updated ...".

    I agree that a new nodelet would be a much better place for the new "Add to ..." links. Even an existing (small) nodelet would be better.

            - tye

      <aol>Me too.</aol>

      If we have to have them, personally I'd prefer them in a nodelet that I can turn on or off, and re-position as I like. Failing that, an on/off option in User Settings would be nice.

      What I'd like to see next to (print, xml) is a reload link. That would be useful if you want to reload a page and you just voted something on it or you talked in the chatterbox or you considered it or you're too lazy to reach for browser reload button ;)


      $|=$_="1g2i1u1l2i4e2n0k",map{print"\7",chop;select$,,$,,$,,$_/7}m{..}g

        Yes, that too. There'd be the type of the node and the node's ID (which would be a link you could click on to reload).

                - tye (Node 22609 is a user)
Re: add to (Personal Nodelet|Scratchpad) links
by PodMaster (Abbot) on Oct 30, 2002 at 14:38 UTC
    I really see no problem with the length, but wouldn't mind if they were shortened.

    I would mind very much if they were moved to some other place.

    I'm on dialup and I hate lugging around my personal nodelet , and I think adding nodes to your nodelet/scratchpad shouldn't require the nodelet (the links sould be there)

    I would be perfectly content with the following ;)

    <a href="..." title="View printable">v1</a> | <a href="..." title="View as xml">v2</a> | <a href="..." title="Add to Personal Nodelet">+3</a> | <a href="..." title="Add to Scratchpad">+4</a>
    v1 | v2 | +3 | +4

    update: width=300

    Re: add to (Personal Nodelet|Scratchpad) links

    by you!!! on Oct 30, 2002 at 02:38 (print, xml, +Personal +Scratchpad )
    or

    Re: add to (Personal Nodelet|Scratchpad) links

    by you!!! on Oct 30, 2002 at 02:38 (vP, vX, +P +S )

    title would have to be added as an approved attribute on the Perl Monks Approved HTML tags

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Re: add to (Personal Nodelet|Scratchpad) links
by talexb (Canon) on Oct 30, 2002 at 15:06 UTC

    Can I suggest two improvements?

    • Spread the choices out so they are beside each other, rather than on top of each other -- which pushes the page down.
    • Make them configurable (on/off).

    While it's neat to see them there, I prefer them at the bottom of my Personal Nodelet. (My nodelet is porky at about 20 links, but they're all great nodes that I have to revisit when I get a Round Tuit -- and I have a fast connection, so I don't mind seeing them every time.)

    --t. alex
    but my friends call me T.
Re: add to (Personal Nodelet|Scratchpad) links
by Aristotle (Chancellor) on Oct 30, 2002 at 15:39 UTC

    I can see wanting to offer them without forcing the Personal Nodelet to be enabled, but even so I concur with tye that they should be in the footer (somewhere next to "d/l code" is where I'm referring to; not sure if tye was referring to the same spot).

    For folks who have the Personal Nodelet enabled though (I'm one of them), they're just duplicate so I propose should not show up at all. I'd like the <small> tags added to the links in the Nodelet as well instead however.

    Makeshifts last the longest.

(tye)Re3: add to (Personal Nodelet|Scratchpad) links
by tye (Cardinal) on Nov 01, 2002 at 13:52 UTC

    We've decided to remove the new links. Instead we'll add

    • a "Personal links" page that shows all of the links you've added to your personal nodelet (in a less crowded way),
    • an option (on that page, I say -- user settings is full enough already) to have your personal nodelet not list all of the links, and
    • a link in the personal nodelet to this new page.
    So you can put the "Add to" links wherever you want in the nodelet bar and still not have to have your huge list of personal links displayed on every page.

            - tye ("[...|add to] [personal links]<br />[...|add to] [...|scratchpad]")

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