Nah. Instead, we should just take over the perl community. It's full of things that would do better as a SoPW, and doesn't have enough chitchat and rumormongering -- after all, that's what LiveJournal is supposted to be all about! Oh, and drunken webcam picks of cute chicks in I &heart; Perl thongs.
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thats exactly why im not big into slash...trolls, im definitely no JavaJunky (still trying to get a grip on OO perl), never been to LiveJournal (though ill check it out now), UseNet is too bloated, although i do spend alot of time in CowboyNeals laundry, i have to say i spend most of my time away from the monastery at use Perl; sorry i guess i dont qualify as a r33l h4x0r :)
Actually, of the "on-line communities" I visit regulary, perlmonks is my
least favourite. These are the communities I visit regulary, in backwards
order of when I joined:
Perlmonks. Since 2Q 2002 as 'Abigail-II', before that as Abigail,
with about a year of not being here.
alt.sysadmin.recovery. I joined this Usenet group in 1997 or 1998.
I recently ended my year long vacation from Usenet.
IRC, #perl. Since early 1997. Certainly the busiest community I visit.
Of all the people I know both in RL and from an on-line community,
I know most of them from IRC.
p5p, the perl5-porters mailing list. Since about the same time as IRC.
I'm a member of about a dozen mailinglists (the exact number varies
over time), but this is the only one that gives me some sense of
comp.lang.perl.misc, previously comp.lang.perl. Since Januari 1995,
the same day I started to use Perl. This community has given me
the best exposure over the years.
VikingMUD, since 1993, and before that, IgorMUD, since 1991. My most
precious community. By far the least amount of traffic, but I've
spend 1354 days there. That 1354 * 24 hours being online there.
It has given me jobs and some very deep (and long) friendships.
nl.eeuwig.september, split-off from nl.misc, which was called
nlnet.misc before, and nlnet.general even before that. Been part
of that community since 1988 - some members go back even further.
There are several reasons. I won't describe them all, some are just
vague, and not worth discussing.
One major con against perlmonks is its user interface. It's web based,
which is just horrible compared to usenet, mailinglist, IRC or MUDs,
all of which I can do from an xterm. For usenet and mailinglist, where
you write articles, just like with perlmonks, you can do the editing in
your favourite editor *IN PLAIN TEXT*. With perlmonks, you have to use a
small textarea, writing in some poorly defined HTML derived markup. You
don't even have the option to write in plain text, or POD. It's a lot
easier to type C<$_> than it is to do <code>$_</code>
(specially considering that HTML already has a CODE element). Mailinglist
and usenet articles I can automatically file - not so with Perlmonks.
Perlmonks is the only community I frequently visit that has thrown adds
at me. I very seldomly see spam in the usenet groups I visit, or on the
mailinglists - they have been filtered out before reaching me.
Also, I find it much harder to 'notice' individuals on Perlmonks. On
other forums, I find it easier to notice others - people spring out
because of their particular knowledge, style, behaviour, signature,
(dis-)likes, etc. There are a few names here I pay attention too, but
that's usually because I know the names from other elsewhere.
Note that I'm not saying I don't like Perlmonks, I wouldn't be here
if that was true. But if I have to rank the communities I visit,
Perlmonks would end last.
re: "VikingMUD, since 1993, and before that, IgorMUD, since 1991. My most precious community. By far the least amount of traffic, but I've spend 1354 days there. That 1354 * 24 hours being online there."
(Doing some math here...) If I understand correctly, you are saying that over the last 12 years, you have spent an average of 7-8 hours per day on these MUDs. Is that correct?
*blink* And you're employed? And you sleep? *blink*
Thats nothing unusual. Bear in mind that most muds continue to count time even if you are idle, and a lot of people just leave themselves logged in over night. (Not that I'm saying Abigail does this, but some of those hours are bound to be idle ones.)
(I started in 1993 and have probably around a 1000 days online-time, if I add all the various muds together that I played (averaging about 150 days on each one..))
But hey, just because the site uses PHP now doesn't mean that it always has. I decided to go to the source... I emailed Wil Wheaton asking about Perl (and mentioned Perl Monks in the process). He replied within 30 - 45 minutes saying "Someday, I will tackle Perl. When I do, I'll join up. Until then, I'll continue being a lamer. :)"
'None of the above'
I'd have no time to actually programm/work/sleep/eat/etc. if I 'did' usenet or irc regularly, much too much going on there. I looked at use perl and couldnt figure out what it was for. Slashdot is way too busy, and much too difficult to find the actual information in all the answers to articles. Never been to LiveJournals (?) or JavaJunkies, don't use AIM (I assume you mean the AOL Instant Messenger by that, you never know ,)
My vote would have to be the Muds I hang out in usually. (Or these days just starting my Perl script that pretends to be a mud and sends/receives the intermud chat-channels.. :)
The big problem with most on-line communities (including this one) is, that you either have to hang out there more or less 10hours a day (or more, or log everything) to keep up, or you don't really belong. I've been and gone at quite a few muds, and am amazed at how many people just seem to ignore you, if you go away for a while (upwards of a quarter-year) and then come back.. (But you asked about favourite, not most-frequented, so thats irrelevant I guess :)
I use.perl; for the
Journals. I read
through the journals of famous, smart, and interesting
people, and I learn all sorts of cool and useful things
about Perl, programming, and life. You might recognize some
of these regular journalists:
I love slashdot. It's absolutely hysterical. Although from time to time I get the sneaking suspicion that they aren't joking.
Personally, I hope OS X sweeps through slashdot like a trophy wife through a bank account. If nothing else, the built-in spellchecker will mean I'll have to spend less time wondering what word someone really meant to type.
Ain't enough 'O's in 'stoopid' to describe that guy.
- Dave "the King" Wilson