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Re: Re: Compiling Regular Expressions

by edan (Curate)
on Feb 19, 2003 at 09:22 UTC ( #236584=note: print w/ replies, xml ) Need Help??

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Cody Pendant,

A few comments... (Monks, correct me if I'm right)

You are correct that study is the opposite of what the OP wants, but only in your second point, in that it works on the scalar to be matched, and not on the regex itself. I have a feeling that your first point - that it 'takes more time' - is a mis-interpretation of the documentation: study takes extra time up-front to study the scalar in question, if you want to do lots of different regex's on it. Depending on your scalar and your regex's, peforming the study may save time on the regex's because you've already analyzed the heck out of that scalar.

A possible scenario when this is useful: Let's say your scalar is a paragraph of text. You plan to run all sorts of matches on this text, to get some sort of statistics on it ('foo' was mentioned twice, 'bar' mentioned once, in the word 'barfly', 'um' appeared 3 times, always followed by '...', etc.). Thus you want to study() the same paragraph, to (possibly) save time on all those different regex's you're going to throw at it...

This is the opposite of what the OP wants, since s/he wants to use the same regex on many different scalars... In this case, I think the previous comments are right on - the regex will be compiled only once if it contains no variable interpolation (i.e. /pattern/), so there's no cause for concern, and using the '/o' operator will force the pattern to be compiled only once if it is in a variable (i.e. /$pattern/o), with the caveat that you cannot change the value of $pattern (well, of course you can, but perl won't notice, and will continue to perform the regex with the value of $pattern when the '/o' was used...)

Hope this helps (and is accurate)...

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Re: Re: Re: Compiling Regular Expressions
by BrowserUk (Pope) on Feb 19, 2003 at 10:21 UTC

    I think your interpretation is correct, though when I've benchmarked it, now and previously, I have had variable results as you'll see below.

    It seems to consistantly slow the regex down (even excluding the study time), if you only match against a single regex.

    There can be some considerable speed up when matching against multiple regexes, but it's not consistant in how much you get. In the example below, matching against 2 regexes on a study'd string sometimes shows upto 50% improvement relative to an unstudy'd one, but less so when matching 3 regexes against the same two strings. It seems to be a function of the constant content of the regexs. Ie. what characters are involved. Those containing rare characters showing greater benefit than those not, but that's really educated speculation.

    That said, there always seems to be some benefit to studying the string if you intend to match against more than once with 2 or more different regexes.

    There doesn't seem to be any benefit (actually normally a small penalty) for multiple matches with a single regex, as with the /g modifier.

    perl> use Benchmark qw[cmpthese]; perl> $s = "I say it's the opposite, because the FAQ says it takes mo +re time, and that it works on the scalar to be matched rather than the regex, but I might as well ask. In what circumstances would I + study() a string before hitting it with a regex?" perl> $t = $s perl> study $s perl> cmpthese( -1, { studied=>'$_=()=$s=~m[FAQ]o', slacker=>'$_=()=$ +t=~m[FAQ]o' } ) Benchmark: running slacker, studied, each for at least 1 CPU seconds. +.. slacker: 1 wallclock secs ( 1.01 usr + 0.00 sys = 1.01 CPU) @ 56 +776.24/s (n=57344) studied: 2 wallclock secs ( 1.12 usr + 0.00 sys = 1.12 CPU) @ 54 +807.31/s (n=61439) Rate studied slacker studied 54807/s -- -3% slacker 56776/s 4% -- perl> cmpthese( -1,{\ studied=>'$a = ($s = ~m[FAQ]o && $s =~ m[regex]o)',\ slacker=>'$b = ($t =~ m[FAQ]o && $t =~ m[regex]o)',\ }) Benchmark: running slacker, studied, each for at least 1 CPU seconds. +.. slacker: 2 wallclock secs ( 1.08 usr + 0.00 sys = 1.08 CPU) @ 98 +754.16/s (n=106852) studied: 2 wallclock secs ( 1.20 usr + 0.00 sys = 1.20 CPU) @ 65 +054.91/s (n=78196) Rate studied slacker studied 65055/s -- -34% slacker 98754/s 52% -- perl> cmpthese( -1,{\ studied=>'$a = ($s =~ m[FAQ]o && $s =~ m[regex]o) && $s =~ m[circumsta +nces]o',\ slacker=>'$b = ($t =~ m[FAQ]o && $t =~ m[regex]o) && $t =~ m[circumsta +nces]o',\ }) Benchmark: running slacker, studied, each for at least 1 CPU seconds. +.. slacker: 2 wallclock secs ( 1.00 usr + 0.00 sys = 1.00 CPU) @ 71 +679.00/s (n=71679) studied: 2 wallclock secs ( 1.17 usr + 0.00 sys = 1.17 CPU) @ 56 +503.84/s (n=66166) Rate studied slacker studied 56504/s -- -21% slacker 71679/s 27% -- perl> cmpthese( -10,{\ studied=>'$a = ($s =~ m[FAQ]o && $s =~ m[regex]o)',\ slacker=>'$b = ($t =~ m[FAQ]o && $t =~ m[regex]o)',\ }) Benchmark: running slacker, studied, each for at least 10 CPU second +s... slacker: 10 wallclock secs (11.21 usr + 0.01 sys = 11.22 CPU) @ 1 +11296.69/s (n=1248415) studied: 11 wallclock secs (10.00 usr + 0.00 sys = 10.00 CPU) @ 1 +41637.98/s (n=1417088) Rate slacker studied slacker 111297/s -- -21% studied 141638/s 27% --

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      A reading of _Mastering Regular Expressions_ leaves me with the impression that sometimes study() speeds things up but other times it just slows things down. So its actual behaviour on performance is likely dependant on your data, your regexes (which is also another sort of data) and then how often each data+regex combination is used. The way M_R_E leaves things, I'm not even sure you can arrive at any sort of truth by using benchmarks. Or... you can arrive at a local definition of truth only by testing your specific data + your specific regexes together.

      The general idea is that a generalized benchmark for study() is invalid.

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        It should also be noted that study() is not as well tested in perl as it ought to be, and as a result changes to the regexp engine over the years have managed to introduce various problems that cause study() not to gain as much speed as it should, and in some cases even give the wrong answer.

        In particular, I don't think study() knows anything about Unicode (though I haven't checked).

        The plan is that 5.10.0 should involve a big cleanup of the regexp engine, so this may improve in the future.


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