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"Next entries-->" Can we make it easier?

by hiseldl (Priest)
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on Apr 03, 2003 at 03:44 UTC ( #247664=monkdiscuss: print w/replies, xml ) Need Help??

I've noticed that in OBFU and CUFP, the "Next entries-->" link is at the bottom. With all the posts that are entered, there may be only a days worth on the first page. I like to scan through the posts of past weeks and even past years to get ideas and to learn things that I would never have thought about unless it was shown to me i.e. in a posted node. This brings me to my point, can we put a "Next entries-->" link at the top of the page in the sections?

I can think of two arguments against this, and I have posted my rebuttle along with them:

  • Why not use search?
    • As I mentioned in the main paragraph, I like to find and learn things that I wouldn't think of and that makes it difficult to think of search terms.
  • If you're scanning through the posts, don't you get to the end of the page anyway?
    • Yes, that is initially true. But, what if you want to go back to the place you left off with? You have to scroll to the bottom, click Next entries, and then either repeat this process or alter the URL to substitute in your last page number.


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Re: "Next entries-->" Can we make it easier?
by graff (Chancellor) on Apr 03, 2003 at 04:31 UTC
    I've had the same sort of yearning from the time I first came to perlmonks. In fact, one of my first posts was to Discussion, to ask about some more compact, easy-to-scan presentation of a section. (I was asking about SoPW at the time, but the issue applies to CUFP, OBFU, Craft, Snippets and Meditations as well.)

    Having lived with the status quo for a while, it's true that the "arguments against" that you cited carry their fair weight, but your counter-arguments make perfect sense (and I think there are more that could be raised).

    But then, I looked again at a resource that I've used many times: node_id=6364&user=MonkOfYourChoice -- that is, Perl Monks User Search (where it appears that a randomly chosen person is always provided as a "default monk" -- lovely idea, that).

    The format used on that node to list postings is really cool: you can sort by date or reputation or title; there's one line per posting, with just the essentials (the title is good enough in many cases to make "look now"-vs-"maybe later" decision); you can type in how many posts to put on a page, and which row number to start with on the next page you fetch. Best of all, there's a "Next n" link right there at the top of the list.

    Might there be a handful of forgotten, low-numbered nodes, already sitting around somewhere, that provide this sort of listing for SoPW, CUFP, Meditations, etc? If not, dare we hope that this sort of facility could be adapted to sections, as well as users?

    Even a fraction of that functionality would be sweet -- just list in reverse chronological order, 50 posts per page -- but provide this concise listing format, the "starting at" type-in, and the "Next 50" link at the top and bottom. Oh, bliss!

    update: fixed the bad link to User Search -- d'oh. (thanks, grantm!!!)

      Even a fraction of that functionality would be sweet -- just list in reverse chronological order, 50 posts per page -- but provide this concise listing format

      graff++, I really like your idea! Of course all the nodes can be searched using Search and Super Search, but a listing by date/reputation/... would be very helpful.

      I do think we need to feature the code sections a bit more on perlmonks. It would be a better motivation to make the effort to post good modules/scripts/snippets if the code would get more attention.

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