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Re: Favourite modules April 2003

by dreadpiratepeter (Priest)
on Apr 15, 2003 at 14:06 UTC ( #250571=note: print w/ replies, xml ) Need Help??


in reply to Favourite modules April 2003

At the moment:

  • Parse::RecDescent - I am an old lex/yacc language designer. The other day I actually had cause to write a little language. I am overwhelmed by how flexible and powerful this module is. All the joy of yacc without all the pain of yacc Thanks Damian!
  • Quantum::Superpositions - Takes a whole class of simple operations that were too complex in Perl and makes them simple again (comparing lists, set operations, etc).
  • DBD::Chart DBIx::Chart - there is nothing like charts to make PHBs happy. And there is nothing like a package with which you can implement them in minutes to make you look good.
  • Data::Locations - makes it simple to build text when you don't necessarily want to build it sequentially, like when building a web page. You can define handles that print into a specific part of your final output. So you could define a skeleton of a web page, have a script handle, a style handle, a body handle, etc. Write the appropriate stuff to the appropriate handle then dump it at the end.
  • Data::Dumper - Couldn't function without it.
  • Date::Calc - All the date manipulation I ever need, in one place.
  • Spreadsheet::ParseExcel Spreadsheet::WriteExcel Allows you to use excel as a data entry mechanism. A great alternative to web forms for really complex data, or for management-type users who a very proficient in excel, but not-so-good elsewhere, Also a great report generation method.
  • CPAN - best mechanism ever for automated installation. It's the life blood of what make Perl sucessful. (Although I hear the CPANPLUS is even better. It's on my short list of things to try).

    -pete
    "Dude, those llamas are pissed!"


  • Comment on Re: Favourite modules April 2003
    Quantum::Superpositions for comparing lists, set operations, etc
    by zby (Vicar) on Apr 15, 2003 at 14:20 UTC
      Quantum::Superpositions - Takes a whole class of simple operations that were too complex in Perl and makes them simple again (comparing lists, set operations, etc) - that was a suprise for me. The name does not idicate that it's such a general purpose module.

        Think perl 6's junctions.

        A surprise to me as well, and I'll be reviewing it again.

        As dense as I must be, from having read about it earlier, I guess I didn't understand the viewpoint or jargon or whatever from various write-ups, including it's own docs.

        I never thought I was stupid... but maybe I should rethink that...

        I've known about Q::S for a long time, but I always thought it's a joke (and inefficiently implemented) that TheDamian forgot to put inside the Acme namespace :) (Don't know where I got that impression). However, I happily admit that I was wrong -- there is quite a number of articles and nodes about Q::S now that show its usefulness. It was only today that Randal posted a link showing how to win football bets all the time using Q::S :).

        Also, recent versions seem to be rather efficient. I haven't looked at the source yet, but I assume that it's more efficient and better debugged than anything I'd quickly hack together if I were in the need for it.

          Well, one should realize people were releasing (joke) modules before someone came up with the Acme:: namespace.

          Abigail

          I thought that it is aimed at computing scientists to test new algorithms for factoring large numbers.
    Re: Re: Favourite modules April 2003
    by BrowserUk (Pope) on Apr 16, 2003 at 06:34 UTC

      Just a word of caution to anyone seduced by the power of Quantum::Superpositioning (as I was around 10 months ago:) : Quick, it ain't; Memory hungry it is.

      It's a fun, and very powerful demonstraton of some powerful concepts, but using it in workaday code is costly.

      To demonstrate that, I reimplemented the brute force algorithms shown in the Q::S pod for is_prime(), factors() and GCD() using fairly standard perl, and the result show that this is not permature micro-optimisation I am talking about:

      The benchmark

      The results

      D:\Perl\test>qs-test s/iter Q::S perl Q::S 282 -- -98% perl 4.87 5702% -- Primes found: Q::S:1229; Perl:1229 s/iter QS_factors PL_factors QS_factors 322 -- -100% PL_factors 0.120 267905% -- qs:90 80 2 48 180 360 18 72 30 144 16 6 240 120 3 36 40 9 12 15 20 8 4 + 60 24 45 10 5 pl:2 3 4 5 6 8 9 10 12 15 16 18 20 24 30 36 40 45 48 60 72 80 90 120 1 +44 180 240 360 s/iter QS_GCD PL_GCD QS_GCD 336 -- -100% PL_GCD 0.148 226174% -- QS:60 - PL:60

      To put that into perspective, the non-Q::S version of is_prime() will find the 9592 prime < 100,000 in approximately half the time the Q::S version finds the 1229 < 10,000.

      The non Q::S version of factors() will find the approx: 400,000 factors of 2!..9! in around a 5th of the time required by the Q::S version to find the approx 6000 factors of 2! .. 6!.

      And The non-Q::S version will perform the approx: 400,000 divisions and int's and the approx: 800,000 comparisons involved in finding the GCD() (using this algorithm) between each succesive pair of factorial 2! thru 9! in about 1/5th the time taken for the Q::S version to do the (approx) 12,000 divisions, 6,000 int's and 12,000 comparisons.

      Even when used for simple testing of arrays against constants Eg.if (all(@array) != 1) {...) the overheads are quite heavy and can quite quickly invoke swapping if your arrays are of any size.

      Hopefully, once the functionality is moved into the core as C or XS, this caveat will disappear.


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      1) When a distinguished but elderly scientist states that something is possible, he is almost certainly right. When he states that something is impossible, he is very probably wrong.
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